Unapproved Meeting Minutes BSI POSIX PANEL Date: 26 February 1993 Location: Hampden House, London Those Present: Dave Cannon (Chairman) Nick MacLaren Derek Jones David Brownridge Colin O'Driscoll Neil Keskar 1. Apologies for absence were received from Hugh Fisher, Vince Rich, Martin Kirk and Don Folland. 2. Dave Cannon said that Vince Rich had informed him that he could no longer continue as secretary due to pressure of work. Neil Keskar had agreed to act as secretary for the day, but volunteers were required undertake the task on a permanent basis. Dave expressed his thanks for Vince's work and wished him well for the future. 3. Approval of Agenda The agenda for the meeting was agreed. 4. Approval of Minutes The minutes of the previous meeting were approved apart from the following: In para 7, "the IST/5/14" should read "his". 5. Matters Arising Don Folland action with regard to nominations for Security Group Rapporteur had been completed. Dave Cannon is following up proposed names (in particular trying to speak to speak to David Ferbreche at DRA Malvern, MOD). The progress on other actions was as follows: 9210-17 Don Folland/David Rogers action continues. 9210-21 Dave Cannon has investigated funding issue and will put in formal request for funding with IST. Dave will also check if any funding is available for greater attendance on POSIX meetings. Action: D Cannon 9210-23 Dave Cannon will speak to Gregor Leijonhufvud to expedite his comments. Action: D Cannon 9210-27 Action completed. Dave Cannon has submitted the group's response to IST/5 for review. 9210-74 Action completed. Dave Cannon has given the group's response to Lorraine Kevra for submission to WG15. 9210-74 Action completed. Dave Cannon has spoken to Hal Jesperson. Internationalisation - Dave Cannon has completed the action to find an appropriate Welsh expert. He has given the names to Gregor Leijonhufvud. Rigorous Conformance - Dave Cannon has completed the action to forward Derek Jones' proposals to Jim Issak. 6. Discussion of Agenda Item 4 The Group discussed the current LIS/TA debate. The conclusion at the end of the discussion was that the Group believed that TA helped to produce better standards. Where TA work had been done it should be standardised. The Group believed that Language Independent Specifications were also desirable. However, if there were difficulties in finding the manpower for this work, then the UK should agree to a language binding specification. The group would welcome any proposal to re-visit the problem when WG11 meet next. Colin O'Driscol gave his report on the proposed NP for "Conformance Testing Model". The Group felt that this was broadly acceptable. Colin to forward the proposed NP to Jim Isaaks for consideration at WG15. Action: C. O'Driscoll The membership of the delegation to Heidelberg (10-14 May) was agreed. Dave Cannon to be PUKE accompanied by Colin O'Driscol as RG Conformance Testing. Dave Cannon to check if additional membership available. Action: D. Cannon 7. Discussion of Agenda Item 5 Dave Cannon will E-Mail the Status Report of IEEE TCOS P1003. 8. Discussion of Agenda Item 6 (Rapporteur Groups) There had been no Rapporteur Group meetings since the last Posix Panel meeting. Nothing to report under this Agenda item. 9. Discussion of Agenda Item 7 (Liaison with Other Standard Committees) IST/5 - Dave Cannon did not attend the last IST/5 meeting. Points arising from this (IST/5/-/15) meeting will be forwarded by Dave Cannon (to IST/5). IST/-/2 Liaison - Nothing to report. IST/5/-/14 Liaison - Derek Jones gave a brief report. The C Addendum has been released for Committee Draft (CD). ISO Working Group will answer interpretation requests. Numerical Group are also progressing C. 10. Any Other Business Dave Cannon will advertise invitations to join 1003.7 ballot group on E- Mail. Interested parties to respond.