ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC22/WG15 (Posix) Meeting,  Rotterdam,  Netherlands
				   May 1991


				Meeting Report


	0. Administrative Concerns:

	The meeting ran from 14-May to 17-May-1991,  and was preceded on
	the 13-May by Rapporteur Group meetings on Security, Conformance
	and Internationalisation.

	Some thirty-two  delegates from  the  USA,  UK,  Denmark, France
	Holland, Germany, Canada  and Japan attended  all or part of the
	meeting.


	1. Action Items:

	The plenary began  with a review of forty-four action items; the
	Paris resolution to require written reponses to action items for
	distribution prior to the next meeting has proved effective: all
	items were addressed and only nine left open.


	2. Sub-Groups:

	The  second  day of the  meeting  was spent  with the  delegates
	divided between three sub-groups to consider issues related to:
		. WG15 Guidelines, Interpretations, Coordination, etc
		. Responses to Technical Comments on:
			. 1003.4		(Real Time)
			. 1003.6		(Security)
			. 1003.2 & 1003.2a	(Shell & UPE)
			and status of:
			. 1003.5		(Ada binding)
			. 1003.9		(Fortran binding)
			. potential Modula 2 binding
		. JTC-1 Issues, NP ballot responses, etc.

	It transpired  that the  bulk of  the work  of the  meeting  was
	executed within  these	three  small  groups,  and while  it was
	agreed	that the  increasing volume  of work  made  sub-division
	necessary, the smaller delegations felt that they were unable to
	make adequate representation where  their interests were divided
	between such groups.  The plenary later resolved that:

		[from Resolution #158] ...and
		whereas it may	be required  that ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15
		meetings   be  divided	 into  small  groups   for  some
		significant portion of the meeting,

		therefore    ISO/IEC   JTC1/SC22/WG15	reiterates   the
		following operating procedure:

		1.  Advance  Notice  of  Meeting  (including information
		    regarding  small  groups)  shall  be  distributed to
		    Member  Bodies  in	 accordance  with  then  current
		    ISO/IEC JTC1 directives.

		2.  The  Draft Meeting Agenda  shall include small group
		    agendas if small group meetings will be held.

		3.  All documents to be used at a ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15
		    meeting  shall  be	distributed to	Member Bodies in
		    accordance with then current ISO/IEC JTC1 Directives.


	3. IEEE TCOS Report:

	The Convenor of WG15,  Jim Isaak,  distributed a  document which
	outlined the  current status of  the IEEE P1003 TCOS  groups and
	said that such	documents would normally  be provided to WG15 in
	future.   WG15 could expect the  following drafts for comment in
	summer 1991:

		. P1003.0	Draft 13	(Posix Guide TR)
		. P1003.7	Draft  7	(System Adiministration)
		. P1003.8	Draft  5	(Transparent
							    File Access)

	The  Language  Independent  Specification  of  P1003.1	 (System
	Kernel)  was expected  to be  available  to WG15  for comment in
	spring 1992.


	4. Liason Reports:

	Liason reports were taken from	c (WG14),  c++, Bindings (WG11),
	PCTE,  and the Security,  Internationalisation	and  Conformance
	Rapporteur  Groups.   WG11  reported that  its main focus is its
	interaction with the Remote  Procedure Call (RPC) group.   Three
	groups (c, c++ and SC2 liason) reported concerns with character-
	set and ISO 10646-related problems.


	5. Resolutions and Actions:

	The  most  significant	outcome  of  the  meeting  followed  the
	submission by the Japanese delegation of a resolution commending
	the move of WG15 to the postulated new SC for  Operating Systems
	and Environments believed to be under consideration by JTC1.  No
	support was  forthcoming for this proposal,  concerns being that
	such a dislocation would  adversely affect  work in progress and
	impede	established  liasons.	During a  lengthy  debate the UK
	delegation  submitted  an  alternative	resolution,   which  was
	approved as:

		[from Resolution #157] and...

		whereas the work of  ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22	is significantly
		enhanced by the combination of programming languages and
		cross language facilities  currently assigned to ISO/IEC
		JTC1/SC22,

		therefore  ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 instructs its Convenor
		to advise ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22  that ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15
		believes  such	a  relocation  at  this  time  would  be
		prejudicial to the success and timely  completion of its
		programme of work.

	Forty-seven other resolutions were adopted by the meeting; these
	largely represented the work done in the sub-groups,  and ranged
	from  recognition  of the  work of  the JTC1 OSCRL  group to the
	recommendations for approval of eleven NPs, as requested by JTC1,
	covering:
								Target
		. P1003.0	(Posix Guide TR)		 SC22
		. P1003.1a	(System Interface Extension)	 SC22
		. P1003.2a	(User Portability Extension)	 JTC1
		. P1003.2b	(Shell & Utility Extension)	 SC22
		. P1003.3	(Test Methods)			 JTC1
		. P1003.4 & .4a (Real Time)			 JTC1
		. P1003.4b	(Real Time Extension)		 SC22
		. P1003.6	(Security)			 SC22
		. P1003.8	(Transparent File Access)	 JTC1
		. P1003.12	(Protocol Independent Interface) JTC1
		. P1003.17	(Directory Service)		 JTC1

	Twenty-eight Action Items were noted, the majority being related
	to liason activities with other groups.

	The meeting closed at 16:00 on	Friday,  17-May-1991.	The next
	meeting is scheduled to take place in Stockholm, Sweden,  4th to
	8th November 1991.


	6. UK delegation:

		David Cannon	(UK BSI IST/5/-/15 Convenor, HoD)
						(University of Exeter
								 /JNT)
		Dan Chacun			(BSI)
		Dominic Dunlop	(Secretary)	(University of Oxford)
		Don Folland			(CCTA)
		Martin Kirk	(IEEE 1003.7 Chair)
						(X/Open UK Ltd)
		Andrew Walker			(X/Open UK Ltd)


	Dave Cannon
	22-May-1991