Name Delegation Post Jim Oblinger Convener Dave Blackwood Canada HoD/Chair Alain LaBonte' Canada observer Nick Stoughton UK Hod Keld Simonsen UK invited expert Andrew Josey UK member/TOG Liaison Roger Martin US HoD/Secretary Jay Ashford US member Bob Barned US member Lowell Johnson US member
The convener announced that there is a concern about making any decisions at this meeting because only three Member Bodies are represented and quorum requirements are not clear. As a result, it was agreed that all Resolutions approved at this meeting will be submitted to WG15 via e-mail for a 45-day letter ballot to confirm those resolutions (see 7.1 below).
Action (Convener): Research rules regarding Working Group meeting quorum requirements and the ability of a Working Group to conduct business.
Action (Convener): Initiate a review of SD6.
Any names not confirmed should be dropped.
| 9901-01 | Project Editor (Stephe Walli) - Call and conduct an editing meeting
to create, approve, and forward to the SC22 Secretariat, a disposition
of comments for IEEE 1003.2b (JTC1.22.41). (R 96-334) after a review by
the U.S., Japan, and Denmark Member Bodies. A proposed record of response
has been received via email in WG15 N754. An editing meeting must now be
held via conference call or email. (See 9705-10.) (Rolled over from 9605-53,
9610-18, 9705-10, 9705-39, 9710-03, 9804-02)
CLOSED - an electronic editing meeting was held after the New Orleans meeting (Jan. 1999). Keld Simonsen objected, but agreed to close this action item because it has been overcome by events. |
| 9901-02 | U.S. - Send the appropriate document corresponding to 22.21.03.02 Batch
Services {2d/15a} to ITTF for publication. SC22 N2232 refers as the ballot
summary. (OPEN until receipt by ITTF is confirmed.) (Rolled over from 9705-40,
9710-12, 9804-04)
CLOSED - New DIS was initiated and closed 99-06-25. |
| 9901-03 | All Project Editors - Ensure they have or obtain the current copy of
their document's source, for archive purposes. (Rolled over from 9705-46,
9710-13, 9804-05)
CLOSED - Keld Simonsen, Don Folland, Jim Oblinger, Casey Schaufler, Michael Gonzales, Shane McCarron, Martin Kirk, Jay Ashford, Ted Baker OPEN - Stephe Walli, Norm Aaronson, Barry Hedquist Action (Convener): Contact Mssrs. Walli, Aaronson and Hedquist to
locate copies of the missing documents.
|
| 9901-04 | Project Editor (Stephe Walli) -- Complete disposition of comments on
Extensions to base (.1a) PDAM5. (rolled over from 9710-38, 9804-09)
CLOSED - Report submitted to Convener |
| 9901-05 | U.S. -- Forward the appropriate draft of CD 13210 Test Methods, when
available, to the SC22 secretariat for DIS ballot. (rolled over from 9710-41,
9804-10)
CLOSED - FDIS 13210 ballot in progress. |
| 9901-06 | Denmark to address Japan's concerns expressed in N759
on the Cultural Convention Specifications. (rolled over from 9804-13)
OPEN - no report received |
| 9901-07 | Andrew Josey to sort e1247,
e1221,
e1220,
e1219,
e1218,
e1217,
e1216,
e1215,
e1204,
e1194,
e1193,
e1163,
e1158,
e1157
into a single record of response and forward them to Keld to mount on the
WG15 web site, and to continue doing this on an annual basis. (rolled over
from 9804-21)
OPEN - Andrew Josey is requested to retransmit the material |
| 9901-08 | All Member Bodies to review and Comment on N768
(LIS Techniques) by August 1. (rolled over from 9804- 24)
CLOSED - see N772 |
| 9901-09 | Convener and US to suggest that material being developed for P1494
and ISO 14766 is ready to become a draft document; and has been jointly
developed. An appropriate copyright statement needs to be developed for
such drafts. (rolled over from 9804-26)
OPEN - Note: Keld Simonsen is attempting to obtain written confirmation from IEEE that the proposed copyright statement is acceptable. |
| 9901-10 | Denmark and Japan Member Bodies -- Provide feedback on Draft Disposition
of Comments for IEEE 1003.2b (JTC1.22.41), prior to the meeting to be called
by the Project Editor. WG15 encourages this feedback to be provided by
01 February 1999. History(R 96-334) after a review by the U.S., Japan,
and Denmark Member Bodies. A proposed record of response has been received
via email in WG15 N754. An editing meeting must now be held via conference
call or email. (See 9705-10.) (Rolled over from 9605-53, 9610-18, 9705-10,
9705-39 and 9710-03.)
CLOSED - Electronic balloting meeting was held. Input was received from Denmark. Comments were not received from Japan. |
| 9901-11 | Convener -- Ensure that Project Editing meeting is held promptly to
resolve issues on Draft Disposition of Comments for IEEE 1003.2b (JTC1.22.41).
History(R 96-334) after a review by the U.S., Japan, and Denmark Member
Bodies. A proposed record of response has been received via email in WG15
N754. An editing meeting must now be held via conference call or email.
(See 9705-10.) (Rolled over from 9605-53, 9610-18, 9705-10, 9705-39 and
9710-03.)
CLOSED |
| 9901-12 | All Project Editors -- Submit current copy of their document source
to Keld Simonsen for archiving on the restricted WG15 web site. This is
an archival copy only. The Project Editors retain responsibility to manage
the source of their documents.
CLOSED - Keld Simonsen (14766)OPEN - Jim Oblinger (.8)Action (Convener): Create a new Standing Document (SD) which is cross reference table of Project Editors and required archival documents. |
| 9901-13 | Project Editor for DAM 4 to 9945-1 -- Prepare and submit Disposition
of Comments for DAM 4 to 9945-1 (P1003.1g), and submit the resulting copy
of DAM4 for Final DAM ballot. This Disposition of Comments report should
include a note stating that while a Final DAM ballot would not be required,
the Project Editor recommends that a such a ballot be conducted due to
the extensive revisions required to resolve the comments on the previous
ballot.
OPEN - no report received from Project Editor (Stephe Walli) |
| 9901-14 | Lead Rapporteur of REV -- Raise the remaining open items on the WG15
Issues List (Issues 3, 8, 9, 10) for possible resolution.
CLOSED - Issues list is being posted to REV. |
| 9901-15 | WG15 Liaison to WG14 -- Prepare a response to the WG14 proposal to
jointly work on the registration of C and POSIX locales. See e1328.
CLOSED - see WG15 N785. |
| 9901-16 | All Member Bodies -- Nominate candidates for membership in the REV
Rapporteur Group
CLOSED. Nick Stoughton (UK), Don Cragun (US), David Blackwood and Glen Seeds (Canada) were nominated. |
| 9901-17 | All Member Bodies -- Nominate candidates for membership in the RPC
Rapporteur Group
CLOSED - Nick Stoughton and Andrew Josey (UK), Roger Martin (US), David Blackwood (Canada) |
| 9901-18 | All Member Bodies -- Review FCD 14651 (SC22 N2844) on sorting, and
FCD 14652 (SC22 N2869) on cultural conventions (locales), and submit comments
by 1 April 1999 to the WG20 Liaison (Keld).
CLOSED - SC22 N2933 (sorting) and SC22 N2955 (locales) ballots are in process in SC22. |
| 9901-19 | US -- Have the US development body call a meeting of the P1494 working
group for the two days immediately preceeding the next WG15 meeting that
is co-located with PASC, and reserve a room for that P1494 meeting.
OPEN - The meeting was not held. |
| 9901-20 | US -- Have the US development body provide electronic copies of the
current source text of P1003.18 and P1003.23, and make those electronic
copies available to the P1494 editor (Keld Simonsen) by 1 March 99.
OPEN - P1003.18 has not been provided. The US expects to provide P1003.23 by the end of July, 1999. |
| 9901-21 | UK & US -- Identify resources available to progress IEEE Std 1003.23
as an ISO fast track, and recommend the appropriate course of action for
progressing this document.
CLOSED - Convener to poll MBs to determine if sufficient support exists for fast tracking IEEE Std 1003.23. |
| 9901-22 | Convener -- Ensure that documents identified in resolution 99-404 are
forwarded as instructed.
OPEN . 1g - awaiting Disposition of Comments |
| 9901-23 | Convener -- Report the formation of new rapporteur groups designated
resolution 99-406 to SC22 for their information.
CLOSED |
| 9901-24 | Convener -- Report on resolution 99-409 to SC22 and seek its advice
on those matters.
CLOSED |
Action (Canada): Recommend action to the Austin Group for resolving Issue 3Issue 8 (Localedef User specified collation weight names) -- OPEN
Action (Japan): Notify WG15 by the next meeting if Issue 8 should remain open. If yes, provide input for resolving this issue. If no, or there is no response, then the Issue 8 will be closed.Issue 9 (LC_CTYPE extensions) -- OPEN.
Action (Convener): Submit an updated copy of the SD-3 (Issues List) for posting on the WG15 web site.
Action (Keld Simonsen, Japan): Review Issue 9 and provide written input to the REV (Revision Rapporteur Group).Issue 10 (Range expression dependency) -- OPEN.
The issue was raised that the proposal may be an obsolete way of addressing this issue.Action (Canada): By 31Dec99, provide a written proposal to REV to resolve Issue 10.
Action (Member Bodies): Review and comment regarding Style Issues
arising from draft 1 of the Austin Group revision document.
All Project Editors are reminded that a Project Editor Report must be submitted in writing to the Convenor NO LATER THAN 30 days prior to an announced WG15 Meeting. Action (Convener): Remind all WG15 Project Editors that a written report on all projects is required 30 days prior to a WG15 meeting.
Action (Project Editors): Submit a written report to the Convener
no later than 99-09-01.
Action(Project Ed 9945-3): Submit a "core dump" to REV regarding
LIS standardization efforts.
Action (Member Bodies): Raise the issue of the C Revision which introduces incompatibilities with the POSIX standard and locales to their SC22 and WG14 advisory bodies to request that they take the steps necessary to get the C standard corrected to maintain compatibility between the C and POSIX standards.
Action (US): Prepare a Defect Report regarding the C Standard incompatibilities with POSIX standard and locales and distribute to the WG15 reflector by 8/15/99.
Action(US): Send copies of the most recent versions of 9945-1 and
9945-2 to the WG14 Convenor for the purpose of WG14 coordination and review.
The following resolutions were approved for WG15 45-day electronic
ballot.
(Draft) RES 99-415 WG15 Vice Chair
Resolved that the JTC1/SC22/WG15 Convenor shall be the standing vice-chair of WG15.(Draft) RES 99-416 User OSE Profiles Guide
JTC1/SC22/WG15 resolves to forward IEEE Guide for Developing User OSE Profiles (IEEE 1003.23-1998) to SC22 for Fast Track balloting.(Draft) RES 99-417 Dissolution of Liaison to WG11
Whereas Mr. Willem Wakker has served as liaison from JTC1/SC22/WG15 to JTC1/SC22/WG11 (Cross Language), and(Draft) RES 99-418 Dissolution of Liaison to WG21
Whereas that liaison is no longer required,
Therefore JTC1/SC22/WG15 dissolves the liaison with JTC1/SC22/WG11 (Cross Language), and thanks Mr. Willem Wakker for his long service in this role.
Whereas Prof Nobuo Saito has served as liaison from JTC1/SC22/WG15 to JTC1/SC22/WG21 (C++), and Whereas that liaison is no longer required, Therefore, JTC1/SC22/WG15 dissolves the liaison with JTC1/SC22/WG21, and thanks Professor Saito for his long service in this role.(Draft) RES 99-419 C Language Incompatibilities
Whereas a draft standard revising the C Language is currently in FDIS ballot in JTC1, and(Draft) RES 99-420 Registration of POSIX Locale
Whereas this draft standard contains language which appears to be incompatible with the version of the C Locale specified in 9945-1 and 9945-2, and
Whereas the developers of the previous version of the C standard worked closely with the US development body for 9945-1 and 9945-2 to ensure that the Locales would be fully compatible, but failed to do so for this revision,
Therefore, JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests JTC1, JTC1/SC22 and JTC1/SC22/WG14 to take appropriate corrective action to realign the C and POSIX locales, and to hold the FDIS ballot open until such time as the noted incompatibilities are resolved.
JTC1/SC22/WG15 resolves to forward ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 the POSIX locale and narrative cultural specification contained in document N785 to SC22 for registration with ISO/IEC 15897.(Draft) RES 99-421 Project Editors Reports
Whereas JTC1/SC22/WG15 has a large number of documents assigned to a large group of editors, and(Draft) RES 99-422 Project Extension
Whereas regular reports from these editors are essential to the conduct of business within JTC1/SC22/WG15,
Therefore, JTC1/SC22/WG15 respectfully requests that all project editors for work assigned to this working group submit a written report on the work assigned to them thirty days before any formal plenary meeting of JTC1/SC22/WG15.
Whereas the development body has spent much time and effort reolving international comments against POSIX.2b, and(Draft) RES 99-423 Forwarding of Documents for FPDAM Ballot
Whereas a new draft of this standard is now available for FPDAM ballot, and
Whereas the normal life of this project is about to expire,
Therefore JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests that SC22 extend the life of this project accordingly.
JTC1/SC22/WG15 advises JTC1/SC22 that the following documents are ready for FPDAM ballot and requests that these ballots be conducted as expeditiously as possible:(Draft) RES 99-424 Withdrawal of Work Item 9945-3
- P1003.1j/D09 (Advanced Realtime Extensions) P1003.2b/D12 (Additional Utilities)
Whereas division of work 22.21.01.01, LIS System Interface (9945-3) has made little progress in the recent years, and
Whereas a project is now underway to revise 9945-1 and 9945-2, and
Whereas there seems little interest in getting this project completed,
Therefore JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests JTC1/SC22 to withdraw the corresponding work item, and JTC1/SC22/WG15 further thanks Mr Keld Simonsen for his untiring efforts on this work, and requests that he ensures that the work is appropriately archived with the JTC1/SC22/WG15 webmaster.
9907-01 (All Project Editors) - Ensure they have or obtain the current copy of their documents' source, for archive purposes. (Rolled over from 9705-46, 9710-13, 9804-05, 9901-03) --
CLOSED - Keld Simonsen, Don Folland, Jim Oblinger, Casey Schaufler, Michael Gonzales, Shane McCarron, Martin Kirk, Jay Ashford, Ted Baker
OPEN - Stephe Walli, Norm Aaronson, Barry Hedquist
9907-02 (Denmark) to address Japan's concerns expressed in
N759
on the Cultural Convention Specifications. (rolled over from 9804-13, 9901-06)
9907-03 (Andrew Josey) to sort e1247, e1221, e1220, e1219, e1218, e1217, e1216, e1215, e1204, e1194, e1193, e1163, e1158, e1157 into a single record of response and forward them to Keld to mount on the WG15 web site, and to continue doing this on an annual basis. (rolled over from 9804-21, 9901-07)
9907-04 (Convener and US ) to suggest that material being developed for P1494 and ISO 14766 is ready to become a draft document; and has been jointly developed. An appropriate copyright statement needs to be developed for such drafts. (rolled over from 9804-26, 9901-09)
9907-05 (All Project Editors) -- Submit current copy of their document source to Keld Simonsen for archiving on the restricted WG15 web site. This is an archival copy only. The Project Editors retain responsibility to manage the source of their documents. (rolled over from 9901-12)
9907-06 (Project Editor for DAM 4 to 9945-1) -- Prepare and submit Disposition of Comments for DAM 4 to 9945-1 (P1003.1g), and submit the resulting copy of DAM4 for Final DAM ballot. This Disposition of Comments report should include a note stating that while a Final DAM ballot would not be required, the Project Editor recommends that a such a ballot be conducted due to the extensive revisions required to resolve the comments on the previous ballot. (rolled over from 9901-13)
CLOSED Keld Simonsen (14766) ,
Don Folland (14252-.0),
Jim Oblinger (.10, .13) ,
Michael Gonzales (.1j),
Jay Ashford (15068-2)OPEN Jim Oblinger (.8),
Stephe Walli (.1d received,.1a, .1b, .1c, .1g),
Casey Schaufler (.1e, .2c),
Norm Aaronson (.14),
Shane McCarron (2003.2),
Martin Kirk (15068-3, 15068-4, 15879),
Ted Baker (.5-14519, .5b-14519),
Barry Hedquist (13210, 14515-1, 14515-2),
Pat Place (.21-18011)
9907-07 (US) -- Have the US development body call a meeting of the P1494 working group for the two days immediately preceeding the next WG15 meeting that is co-located with PASC, and reserve a room for that P1494 meeting. (rolled over from 9901-19)
9907-08 (US) -- Have the US development body provide electronic copies of the current source text of P1003.18 and P1003.23, and make those electronic copies available to the P1494 editor (Keld Simonsen) by 1 March 1999. (rolled over from 9901-20)
9907-09 (Convener) -- Ensure that documents identified in resolution 99-404 are forwarded as instructed. (rolled over from 9901-22)
New Action Items arising from this previous meeting
9907-10 Action (Convener): Research rules regarding Working Group meeting quorum requirements and the ability of a Working Group to conduct business.
9907-11 (Convener): Initiate a review of SD6. Any names not confirmed should be dropped.
9907-12 (Convener): Create a new Standing Document (SD) which is cross reference table of Project Editors and required archival documents.
9907-13 (Convener): Create a new Standing Document (SD) which is cross reference table of Project Editors and required archival documents.
9907-14 (Convener): Contact Mssrs. Walli, Aaronson and Hedquist to locate copies of the missing documents needed to close A.I. 9907-01.
9907-15 (Member Bodies): Provide input to REV on any implementation of alternative command syntax for the 'dd' command.
9907-16 (Canada): Recommend action to the Austin Group for resolving Issue 3
9907-17 (Japan): Notify WG15 by the next meeting if Issue 8 should remain open. If yes, provide input for resolving this issue. If no, or there is no response, then the Issue 8 will be closed.
9907-18 (Convener): Submit an updated copy of the SD-3 (Issues List) for posting on the WG15 web site.
9907-19 (Keld Simonsen, Japan): Review Issue 9 and provide written input to the REV (Revision Rapporteur Group).
9907-20 (Canada): By 31Dec99, provide a written proposal to REV to resolve Issue 10.
9907-21 (Member Bodies): Review and comment regarding Style Issues arising from draft 1 of the Austin Group revision document.
9907-22 (Convener): Remind all WG15 Project Editors that a written report on all projects is required 30 days prior to a WG15 meeting.
9907-23 (Project Editors): Submit a written report to the Convener no later than 99-09-01.
9907-24 (Project Ed 9945-3): Submit a 'core dump' to REV regarding LIS standardization efforts.
9907-25 (Convener): Remind SC22 Secretary that the Print Administration work item (22.21.03.03)should be withdrawn by SC22.
9907-26 (Member Bodies): Raise the issue of the C Revision which introduces incompatibilities with the POSIX standard and locales to their SC22 and WG14 advisory bodies to request that they take the steps necessary to get the C standard corrected to maintain compatibility between the C and POSIX standards.
9907-27 (US): Prepare a Defect Report regarding the C Standard incompatibilities with POSIX standard and locales and distribute to the WG15 reflector by 8/15/99.
9907-28 (US): Send copies of the most recent versions of 9945-1 and 9945-2 to the WG14 Convenor for the purpose of WG14 coordination and review.
9907-29 (Keld Simonsen): Submit a statement to WG15 clarifying the relationship between 14766, 14652, and 15897.
9907-30 (Convener): Initiate a 45-day Letter Ballot to approve the proposed meeting resolutions.
9907-31 (Convener) Poll MBs to determine if sufficient support exists for fast tracking IEEE Std 1003.23.
Additional Action Items arising from Resolutions
9907-32 (Convener) Forward IEEE Guide for Developing User OSE Profiles (IEEE 1003.23-1998) to SC22 for Fast Track balloting.
9907-33 (Convener) Forward the POSIX locale and narrative cultural specification (WG15 N785) to SC22 for registration with ISO/IEC 15897.
9907-34 (Convener) Request SC22 extend the life of the POSIX.2b project ( 22.41) to allow it to complete its work which is entering FPDAM ballot. (See draft Res 99-442)
9907-35 (Convener) Forwarding the following documents to SC22 for FPDAM ballot and requests that these ballots be conducted as expeditiously as possible (see draft RES 99-423): P1003.1j/D09 (Advanced Realtime Extensions) P1003.2b/D12 (Additional Utilities)
9907-36 (Convener) Request SC22 to withdraw 22.21.01.01 (LIS System Interface). (see draft Res 99-424)
9907-37 (Keld Simonsen) Submit 22.21.01.01 (LIS System Interface)
documents to the JTC1/SC22/WG15 webmaster for archiving.
N783r2 Minutes of previous meeting
N784r Agenda
N785 POSIX Locale for Registration
N786 UK Action Item Report
N787 TOG Liaison Report
N788 US Action Item Report
N789 Canadian Action Item Report
N790 WG15 Project Editors Report
N791 Convener Action Item Report
N792 Minutes meeting
N793 Agenda for next meeting
WG15 thanks Bell Canada for providing the meeting room and facilities,
and Standards Council of Canada for hosting an excellent dinner. Thanks
are also extended to Mr David Blackwood for chairing the meeting, Mr Roger
Martin
(US) for acting as secretary, and Mr Nick Stoughton (UK) and Mr Lowell
Johnson (US) for acting as drafting committee.