WG15 N301 To: WG15 folks Sept. 21, 1992 from: Jim Isaak RE: feedback from SC22 Aug. 92 meeting - 10646 - SC22 will be holding an ad hoc for SC22 WG's to gain an understanding of how 10646 is set up, and to encourage WG's to develop an approach to incorporating it in their work as appropriate. The exact date is not yet set for this, but WG15 may wish to send one or more representitives. - There was interest raised in SC22 about the diversity of representitives in the participants in various WG's, catagories mentioned included Users, Vendors, University, and Government. It may be useful to get a sense for this within WG15 so I can provide feedback to SC22 or the concerned members of WG15. - Interpretations synchronization is being addressed in JTC1 terms as Defect Reports and Technical Corregenda ... more detailed information on this will be provided to WG15. - WG15 rapporteur group on Security has been asked to provide "brainstorming" ideas related to the SC27 request for input (See SC22 N1149) and provide feedback to Joe Cote, for cosolidation and response to SC27. ================= The following resolutions reflect some of the above, and also other points of possible interest for WG15 ============= - Taken from SC22 Resolutions: Final version, adapted for email by Keld Simonsen [1992 Aug] Resolution A: Revised JTC1 Directives ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 notes the approval of a revision to the JTC1 Directives (document SC22/N1130) and instructs its working group conveners to operate in accordance with these Directives. In particular, attention is called to the following provisions: - working group participants must be authorized by their National Body or liaison organization (1.5.2); - work must be progressed in a timely manner (2.1.3.10, 2.1.3.11); - an annex on portability considerations must, when applicable, be incorporated in standards (6.5.1.7); - the CD ballot period may be extended (6.5.2.1); - CD ballot resolution must occur within 3 months (6.5.2.5); - standards must be periodically reviewed (6.11); - meeting notices and agendas must be distributed preferably four months, but no later than three months in advance (3.5.4.2). Resolution J: Encouragement of User Participation ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 - believes that input from users related to user requirements and priorities is of particular value at the project level; - hence encourages the participation of users, preferably through national bodies, in the work of SC22, particularly in developing user requirements for SC22 standards; and - invites user groups that span more than one country to seek category C liaison with SC22 working groups in accordance with the JTC1 directives. Resolution AA: Category C liaison with X/Open for WG4 ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22, noting the report of the WG4 convener that Category C liaison with the X/Open COBOL working group would be beneficial to the work of SC22, authorizes the provisional participation of that group in the work of WG4, whilst the formal processes for establishing liaison are proceeding. Resolution AE: CD Registration of Technical Report on test methods for measuring conformity to POSIX ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 approves the CD registration of document SC22/N1180, and instructs the SC22 secretariat to initiate the CD balloting as soon as the WG15 conformance testing rapporteur group has provided a proposed resolution of the UK NP comments in document SC22/N1134 for inclusion in the balloting package. Resolution AF: DIS Registration of CD 9945-2 POSIX: Shell and Utilities, incorporating the User Portability Extension amendment ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 - notes that the balloting positions of France, Denmark and New Zealand with respect to the amendment are affirmative; - notes that the comments raised by Japan have been sufficiently addressed and that the Japanese ballot is also now affirmative; - concludes that there is now substantial support of the P- members of SC22 for DIS registration of CD 9945-2 as proposed; and therefore - approves the DIS registration of CD 9945-2, incorporating the changes shown in documents SC22/N1147 and SC22/N1148, merging the User Portability Extension with the main document. Resolution AL: Category C liaison with X/Open for WG20 ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22, noting the report of the WG20 convener that Category C liaison with the X/Open Internationalization working group would be beneficial to the work of SC22, authorizes the provisional participation of that group in the work of WG20, whilst the formal processes for establishing liaison are proceeding. Resolution AM: Subdivision of Work Item JTC1.22.30 - Functionality for the internationalization of applications ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 endorses the subdivision of the work item JTC1.22.30 - Functionality for the internationalization of applications as follows: JTC1.22.30.01 - Framework for internationalization for programming languages and their environments JTC1.22.30.02 - Functionality for the internationalization of applications Resolution BB1: Adoption of procedures for handling of Defect Reports ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 adopts document SC22/N1236 as its procedures for handling reports of defects or suspected defects in, and requests for interpretation concerning, documents for which it is responsible, in accordance with clause 6.13.3 of the JTC1 Directives. Resolution BB2: Instructions for working groups using national body development ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 instructs those working groups which use national body development to revise their synchronization plans to be in accordance with the procedures specified in document SC22/N1236. Resolution BC: Ad Hoc Group on cross-language coordination ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22, recognizing the need for a subcommittee policy on cross-language coordination, establishes a Cross-Language Coordination Ad Hoc Group, under the leadership of Mr Paul Rabin, and with the terms of reference specified in the document SC22/N1235: - to draw up a Cross-Language Coordination Questionnaire to identify expected interactions between individual languages and cross-language standards, based on the draft in SC22/N1186, and to distribute it, by 30 September 1992, to all SC22 WG conveners; - to make the responses to the Questionnaire available to the SC22 National Bodies as soon as possible in order that the results can be useful during ballots that occur before the 1993 SC22 plenary meeting; - to develop a proposed policy for cross-language standard coordination; - to identify the actions necessary to implement the proposed policy for each SC22 language; and - to produce a report on its work and forward it to the SC22 secretariat by 31 May 1993 for distribution and for discussion at the 1993 SC22 plenary. The membership of the Cross-Language Coordination Ad Hoc Group will include Ed Barkmeyer (USA), Ken Edwards (USA), Brian Meek (UK) and Willem Wakker (NL). The Ad Hoc Group is intended to work by e-mail and correspondence. Resolution BD: Cross-Language Coordination: Questionnaire ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 - instructs working group conveners to send completed responses to the Cross-Language Coordination Questionnaire in machine readable form to the address specified on the questionnaire, by 28 February 1993; and - confirms that any responses will be treated as informative and not agreed WG policy, and that conveners are free to use whatever practical means they deem appropriate to complete the responses by the specified deadline. Resolution BE: Cross-Language Coordination: external liaisons ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 instructs its Ad Hoc Group to send the following information to bodies outside SC22: - an explanation of what SC22 is trying to accomplish by this exercise and how participation in it of their body can improve the work of both bodies; - a request for any input they are able to provide which would assist the Ad Hoc Group in its work, including their responses to the relevant parts of the Cross-Language Coordination Questionnaire where appropriate, with the aim of advancing the cause of obtaining mutually satisfactory and useful standards; - copies of the Cross-Language Coordination Questionnaire; and - copies of the relevant CDs, as appropriate; the bodies concerned being: SC2; SC7; SC18; SC21, with the response to their liaison request on APIs; SC21/WG3, for SQL and IRDS; SC24; ECMA, for PCTE ANSI ASC X11, for MUMPS* *Note: MUMPS is a trademark of Massachusetts General Hospital Resolution BF: Ad Hoc Meeting on Character Sets ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 - recognizes a need for the technical experts in its working groups to develop an understanding of IS 10646:1992, and related character set standards; - recognizes that a better understanding of the concepts of character and glyph would be of value to SC22; therefore - resolves that an ad hoc meeting on character sets will be arranged, with Mr Keith Hopper (NZ) as convener, the agenda to include the issues identified in SC22/N1239, with expert participation invited from SC2, SC18 and all working groups in SC22, to help SC22 WG experts to understand the content and implications of these standards related to the work of SC22. Resolution BG: Internationalization Report to JTC1 ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 - approves document SC22/N1237 as the basis of its response to Resolution 18j of the October 1991 JTC1 Plenary meeting; - recognizes that additional facts regarding current activities may be added to the document and that general editorial corrections may be made to improve the document's clarity and consistency; - authorizes its Chairman, or his designee, to carry out such changes and submit the revised response to JTC1.