From D.Cannon@exeter.ac.uk Fri Jul 14 21:38:18 1995 Received: from hermes (hermes.ex.ac.uk) by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA24955 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 21:38:39 +0200 Received: from cen by hermes via ESMTP (UAA22546); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:38:20 +0100 From: D.Cannon@exeter.ac.uk Message-Id: <24800.199507141938@cen> Subject: Nascent RIN Issues list To: wg15rin@dkuug.dk Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:38:18 +0100 (BST) Acknowledge-To: D.Cannon@Exeter.ac.uk X-Organisation: University of Exeter, IT Services X-Disclaimer: The following is a personal statement and does not reflect University of Exeter policy or agreement. Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3921 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 RIN Issues List Help required please - I'm drowning, not waving! At the WG15 RIN meeting in Twente, 11-12 May 1995, it was decided to remove the Agenda Items traditionally listed under 3.1 to entries in this document, the WG15 RIN Issues List. This was because the status and raison d'etre of these items had been obscured over time, and the debate on each item was being revisited at each meeting. A triumvirate of David Cannon (UK), Keld Simonsen (Dk) and George Kriger [in absentia] (Ca) was charged with exhuming the argument and status of each item from past RIN and WG15 papers and minutes, and encapsulating them here. The intention is that this document will be maintained and updated as the argument on each of the Issues develops. You'll be pleased to know that I have spent many happy hours poring over dusty manuscripts and cracking, aged email messages - and have reached some kind of conclusion for eleven of the fourteen items. (You may disagree with some or all of my conclusions; that debate is probably best held at the next RIN meeting). What I'd like is some pointers to input documents on the remaining three items: I'm stuck on these - they seem to have arrived in RIN's lap as fully developed monsters with a life of their own. Meeting minutes refer to them obliquely, in reverential tones, and pass swiftly by them. I need dates of conception, documents outlining the debate, etc, etc. (Presumably some of us must care about these issues... if we don't then I'd suggest we note them as closed due to lack of interest). The issues are: Status, so far as I can establish 0. Extended Identifiers in 1003.2b [Closed] 1. localedef is_wctype() [Closed ?] 2. localedef user-specified collation weight names [Open] 3. localedef "substitute" [Closed] 4. localedef "reorder-after" [Closed] 5. removal of NUL special handling. [Closed] 6. full support for state-dependent charsets [Open] * 7. charmap-based charset conversion * 8. "file" user-specified recognition algorithm [Closed] * 9. "pax" extended character set support * 10. C MSE widechar support [Open] 11. Invariant ISO 646 support [Closed] 12. charsymb/CHARIDS [Open] * 13. regexps * I'm looking for pointers to existing documents on items 7, 9 and 13 of the above list. Documents on others are welcome, if you think it would help, but NO NEW ARGUMENT please - we can do all that at the meeting. Executive Summary: Closed: The Issue is closed in RIN - not necessarily everywhere else. MBs or WG15 may still regard the Issue as active. This is the RIN Issues list - no-one else's. Closed in RIN means that RIN has no further legitimate interest in the Issue. WG15, at its discretion, may request RIN re-open it. Open: The Issue is open in RIN - RIN regards the Issue as receiving its active attention. WG15 has asked RIN to consider the issue, and RIN has not yet reached conclusion on the Issue. Upon conclusion RIN shall advise WG15 of its recommendations. Anyone who has an interest is welcome to see the current state of the Issues List document. But it is BIG - currently about 85kbytes. I also have available electronic copies of the RIN Document list and the WG15 Document list from N101... Thanks for your help, cheers, -- _________________________________________________________________________ David Cannon University of Exeter, IT Services Laver Building, North Park Road Systems/Network Programmer Exeter, EX4 4QE, Devon, UK Phone: +44 (0)1392 263998 Fax: +44 (0)1392 211630 _________________________________________________________________________