From ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp Sat May 8 12:43:13 1993 Received: from tiswd-gw.toshiba.co.jp by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA28760 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Sat, 8 May 1993 12:43:13 +0200 Received: by tiswd-gw.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/2.8Wb) id AA03237; Sat, 8 May 93 19:47:21 JST Received: from tis4.tis.toshiba.co.jp by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-R04) id AA20680; Sat, 8 May 93 19:42:31 JST Received: from ome-relay by tis4.tis.toshiba.co.jp (5.52/6.4J.6-R05) id AA12310; Sat, 8 May 93 19:43:37 JST Received: by tsbome.ome.toshiba.co.jp (5.64/6.4J.5-OMgw0.1) id AA22492; Sat, 8 May 93 19:50:16 +0900 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9305081050.AA22492@tsbome.ome.toshiba.co.jp> To: sc22wg15rin@dkuug.dk Cc: relliott@vnet.ibm.com From: ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp (Yasushi Nakahara) Subject: Japan's Action Report for RIN 9305 Reply-To: ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp Date: Sat, 08 May 93 19:46:51 JST X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 RIN members, This is an action item report from Japan for the upcoming RIN 9305 meeting in Heidelberg. By cc to Mr. Ron Elliott, Could I ask you to kindly make a suitable number of copies of this report for circulation at the RIN meeting on Monday? Thanks. Best Regards, - ynk Yasushi Nakahara TOSHIBA Corp. Phone: +81 428-33-1346|1347 Fax: +81 428-32-0018 Email: ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp _________________________________________________________________________ JAPAN'S ACTION ITEM REPORT FOR SC22/WG15/RIN 9305 MEETING ITSCJ/SC22/POSIX WG | Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 18:01:55 JST | Subject: (posix 1007) (SC22WG15RIN.247) Draft RIN 9210 Minutes | Minutes of the Seventh Meeting of WG15 Rapporteur Group | on Internationalisation | held at the offices of X/Open Ltd, Apex Plaza, Reading, England | 26 - 29 October 1992 | Summary of Outstanding Actions | | I -- From Previous Meetings | | 920505 | 920508 -- permanent | | % Members are to inform R Barker regularly of the dates of | % national meetings Japan regularly holds its POSIX WG meeting once a month without no specific rules for selecting actual date. Only rule we have is to avoid holidays. :-) So, the dates are fixed on case-by-case basis. As a related suggestion, I think that we should re-consider the original intention of this action item. The original description of this action was [from the RIN 9205 minutes]: > RIN9205-008 - All members to send the meeting schedules for their > organizations to Ralph Barker for compilation into a composite > calendar. This calendar will be used by Keld in an effort to > coordinate mailings of RIN documents (more frequent RIN mailings > needed) so that RIN members can get greater national body > input prior to RIN meetings. With this intention in mind, I would suggest again to take another approach to improve effectivity/productivity of our RIN's activities. The following is an excerpt of my previous email posted to RIN. Please take this as a base input for such discussion, in particular, regarding setting up special date like every 10th, 15th or 18th of each month. ynk> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 16:50:53 JST ynk> Subject: (posix 959) (SC22WG15RIN.243) RIN9205 Action Items - #1, #3, #4 ynk> [Keld as a head of RIN rapporteur, to accelerate RIN discussions and to ynk> make RIN activities more productive, I would suggest that you *big* ynk> Rapporteur might more periodically encourage people to do their homeworks ynk> and/or action items by sending something like a *follow-up* email or by ynk> setting suitable due date even for submission of intermediate status ynk> report. Also I have another idea in my mind, we may set up every 10th ynk> and 18th of each month, as working (status checking) days for L10N/I18N ynk> issues of POSIX, i.e. L10N/I18N days, world wide (or every 15th for ynk> WG15?). All the concerned people may sit for his/her terminal to ynk> read/write related documents/emails. This may be a *joke*, but we should ynk> consider seriously how to coordinate our activities more effectively and ynk> productively, I think. As you know, we are too busy, and besides we all ynk> may have financial problems to attend overseas meeting due to recession ynk> world wide, which would make it impossible to increase a number of our ynk> meetings.] Also, I should include Keld's reply at that time. keld> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:29:03 +0100 keld> Subject: (posix 964) (SC22WG15RIN.244) Re: RIN9205 Action Items .... keld> I tried to get some work organized between meetings, but I have got keld> very little response. I like the 10/15/18 days:-) keld> One thing we could do was nagging people more with their action items, keld> but I feel that some people may be very uncomfortable with this. keld> keld> So maybe we could make a group of people who will like to keld> be nagged with things, and let the others have peace. keld> keld> Keld | II -- From Seventh Meeting -- New Actions | | 921002 The Japanese national body is to expand RTN001 in light of | the above discussion. This expansion is to include provision | for a separate part for a TR covering POSIX locale guidelines | (Minute 17). | | % 17. The Japanese national body is to expand RTN001 in light of Japan | % the above discussion. This expansion is to include provision | % for a separate part for a TR covering POSIX locale guidelines | % (921002). | | * RTN001 Draft NWI Proposal re `Guidelines for POSIX National Profile' Done. The new draft is being submitted to the RIN 9305 meeting. | 921004 The Japanese national body is to reword the proposal of | RTN017 relating to Section 3.1 of CD9945-2 and pass to the | US development body for the consideration of the appropriate | drafting committee as soon as possible (Minute 30). | | % 30. The Japanese national body is to reword the proposal of Japan | % RTN017 relating to Section 3.1 of CD9945-2 and pass to the | % US development body for the consideration of the appropriate | % drafting committee as soon as possible (921004). | | * RTN017 Extended Identifiers in POSIX utilities from Denmark. Japan's (counter) proposal will be submitted to the RIN 9305 meeting. | 921005 The Japanese national body is to co-ordinate and draft | the development of a Table of Contents for both National | Profile and locale guideline Technical Reports (Minute 32). | | % 32. The Japanese national body is to co-ordinate and draft Japan | % the development of a Table of Contents for both National | % Profile and locale guideline Technical Reports (921005). This would be covered by the new draft of NP for "Guidelines for POSIX National Profiles and Locales". | 921007 All member bodies are to provide feedback to the Japanese | member body on style issues relating to the definition of | national locales and profiles for incorporation into a first | draft of the proposed TRs (Minute 44). | | % 44. All member bodies are to provide feedback to the Japanese ALL | % member body on style issues relating to the definition of | % national locales and profiles for incorporation into a first | % draft of the proposed TRs (921007). Japan is looking forward to having feedback and discussion at the RIN/WG15 May meeting. _________________________________________________________________________