From keld@dkuug.dk Mon Dec 7 00:05:31 1992 Received: by dkuug.dk id AA22734 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for wg15rin); Mon, 7 Dec 1992 00:05:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 00:05:31 +0100 From: Keld J|rn Simonsen Message-Id: <199212062305.AA22734@dkuug.dk> To: wg15rin@dkuug.dk, ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp Subject: Re: (SC22WG15RIN.247) Draft RIN 9210 Minutes X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sorry for being a bit late. My comments to the minutes: > ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15/N___ > ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15RIN/N___ > > > Minutes of the Seventh Meeting of WG15 Rapporteur Group on Internationalisation > held at the offices of X/Open Ltd, Apex Plaza, Reading, England > 26 - 29 October 1992 > > > Present: > K Simonsen, Danish Unix Users Group, Denmark (Chairman) Could I be listed as Keld Simonsen, not just K Simonsen? Please also not that I am the Danish Rapporteur, and the Lead Rapporteur. > G Leijonhufrud, Posix Ltd, UK Leijonhufvud Could you please indicate in the revised minutes who were the rapporteurs? > -- > 1.3 2. The temporary document numbers given in Annex A to these > minutes were assigned by the chair. Those given permanent Lead Rapporteur. > document numbers are indicated in that Annex. > > > 1.5 5. The minutes of the sixth meeting were approved nem con. What does "nem con" mean? "without comments"? If so I believe it communicates better. > > 2.0 6. The outstanding actions from the sixth meeting have been > actioned as follows :-- > > 920501 Japanese/US paper by e-mail. Closed The action items are listed as "yymm-nn" where yy is the year and month is the month of the meeting, and then nn is the consequitive number. please change the minutes thruout to be in accordance with this. > that applications should not handle the problem. > > h. The pax file format is now based on ISO 1001. User > names, group names and file names are in UTF-File System > Safe encoding. A new/better format is still looked for. The pax format in .2b has always been based on ISO 1001. "The new/better.. " sentence seems to be too negative towards 1001 specifications, as far as I remember Hal's remarks. Could you please, Keith, also communicate with Hal on the minutes here where he reported on .2b work? Hal has previously said in an emeil that he did not find the current draft minutes adequate on his .2b report. > 3.1.15 28. The Danish draft on invariant ISO646 is seen as a rehash > of the original trigraph proposals to digraphs. This should > be approved by WG14 before this issue may be re-opened in > this group. Closed pending such approval. Well, the danish draft is not a rehash of some C proposal. Anyway the proposal on digraphs have been accepted by WG21. So why explicitely bind this to WG14? The above statement does not make sense. We did not close this point as stated here. > 3.1.1 29. The reference in RTN017 to CD 9945-2 p187, Section 3.1 > was discussed and it was not liked. Well maybe you did not like it, but please do not specify your own preferences. Actually the proposal was liked that much that another member body took over work on it. If you want to say something negative about it, you may reword it to say "and there was some problems found with it". > > 30. The Japanese national body is to reword the proposal of Japan > RTN017 relating to Section 3.1 of CD9945-2 and pass to the > US development body for the consideration of the appropriate > drafting committee as soon as possible (921004). > > 3.4 37. The group confirms that the WG15 response to SC22 requests > is satisfactory. WG15 initial response to SC22 on the JTC1 internationalization report request is satisfactory. > 39. R Barker indicated that through lack of input to him, the > promised paper on ISO 10646 would not be forthcoming. It would > be overtaken by the Ad Hoc meeting. The paper RIN N049 will thus not be issued. > > 4.2 40. Consideration was given to the WG20 liaison report, noting > that WG20 wished to retain the use of the term `cultural element' > and recommending that WG15 proceed with the registration > mechanism. change "registration mechanism" to "locale and charmap collection" Keld