From keld Sun Apr 12 18:14:16 1998 Received: (from keld@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA08538 for sc22wg15; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:14:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199804121614.SAA08538@dkuug.dk> From: keld@dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:14:15 +0200 X-Charset: ISO-8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mnemonic-Intro: 29 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.2 4/12/91) To: sc22wg15 Subject: cooperatio between PASC, ToG and WG15 How to cooperate between PASC, ToG and WG15. It would be beneficial to the POSIX standardization process if the resources used in differnt organizations could be pooled. I will hereby propose that it is tried to pool resources from PASC, WG145 and ToG, by having common meetings in one room called by all the 3 organizations.. All technical discussions should be done between all the participants, and then when formal decisions are to be taken, the decision rules of each of the participating organizations. There should be one chair elected for the meeting, and one secretary, and one drafting committee for the combined meeting. This would ensure an open organization of the standardization process for Open Systems. This proposal should be readily implementable, as it does not need any change in the formal operations of the organizations involved. All that is needed is coordination of the meeting calls. The proposal has merits in that no organization is losing influence, and that the process can be as open as possible. One could also invite other organizations, possibly on a time-by-time basis, that are producing standards relevant for open systems, for example the ISO C and C++ WGs, with their APIs that are also part of the Single Unix specification, or the ISO i18n WG, that are producing locale formats and APIs compatible with the POSIX specifications. One important point to bear in mind is that we should not fight eachother, but rather join our forces in producing quality standards in a timely manner. Jim Isaak once pointed out that because of a failiour to establish a GUI standard, the Open Systems movement may have lost a business opportunity of a market estimated to be worth between 1 and 100 billion USD. Favourizing one specific standardization organization, like ToG, could lead to much internal power struggle from the other organizations involved.