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From: ajosey@rdg.opengroup.org (Andrew Josey)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:32:09 +0000
In-Reply-To: Keld J|rn Simonsen's message as of Oct 29,  7:40pm.
Reply-To: ajosey@rdg.opengroup.org (Andrew Josey)
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To: keld@dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen), sc22wg15@dkuug.dk,
        wg15-uk@opengroup.org
Subject: Re: (SC22WG15.1139) Missing UNIX98 utilities in POSIX-2


On Oct 29,  7:40pm in "(SC22WG15.1139) Miss", Keld J|rn Simonsen wrote:
> UNIX 98 utilities missing in POSIX-2 (as per Open Group's web)
> Date: 1997-10-20
> Source: Keld Simonsen
> 
> Here is an overview of what POSIX 98 utilities are missing in
> POSIX standards, according to the Open Group's web.
> 
The information quoted below is not accurate.

Some of these are classed as  LEGACY utilities, some of 
these commands have been WITHDRAWN - as such  they
are NOT mandatory - they are optional or not present. 

> mandatory: banner cal calender chroot compress cpio fuser gencat
> getconf getopts hash iconv ipcrm ipcs link nl red sdb tee tsort
> type ulimit uncompress unlink uucp uustat uux wall zcat

banner is withdrawn (since XCU Issue 4)
calendar is legacy
chroot is withdrawn (since XCU Issue 4)
cpio is legacy
red  is withdrawn (since XCU Issue 4)
sdb is withdrawn (since XCU Issue 4)
wall is withdrawn (since XCU Issue 4)

The online Single UNIX Specification can be viewed at
	http://www.unix-systems.org/online.html

> 
> Development: admin cflow cxref delta get m4 prs rmdel sact sccs 
> unget val what
> 
> Legacy: cancel col cu dircmp line lint lpstat mail pack pcat pg spell
> sum unpack uulog uuname uupick 
> 
> Optional: dis
> 
> 
> A number of these are being proposed by DS to be included already
> in POSIX standards, including the source control and compression
> commands. This will include: delta sccs get rmdel unget compress
> uncompress zcat. Also iconv and type is covered by POSIX documents
> in development.
> 
> The rest seems to be reasonable to undertake for standardization too.
> There may be problems in the legacy section, whether they are needed,
> and some system administration tools may also not be eglible. 
> 
The Open Group  would oppose any proposal to introduce
utilities marked LEGACY or WITHDRAWN into ISO 9945-2.

> 
> We will return with a survey of POSIX APIs.
> 
You can look at the API tables provided at
	http://www.unix-systems.org/apis.html

These give the derivation.

regards
Andrew


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