From Jim.Isaak@digital.com Wed Sep 3 18:35:40 1997 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA16799; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:35:32 +0200 Received: from cst.ako.dec.com (cst.ako.dec.com [16.151.72.40]) by mail13.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) with SMTP id MAA13481; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cst.ako.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BCB864.62164BC0@cst.ako.dec.com>; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:24:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim Isaak To: "'a WG15'" , "'s Aaronson, Norm'" , "'s Ashford, Jay'" , "'s Baker, Ted'" , "'s Folland, Don'" , "'s Gonzalez, Michael'" To: "'s Hedquist, Barry'" , "'s Kirk, Martin'" , "'s McCarron, Shane'" , "'s Oblinger, Jim'" , "'s Schaufler, Casey'" , "'s Simonsen, Keld'" Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:24:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have our WG15 Oct meeting set for Oct 20th. I would ask that all Project Editors, Liasions, and Member Bodies provide reports via email to the WG15 list by Oct. 1st so we will have a chance to review these before the meeting. Below is the list of action items from the May meeting, please review this looking for specific action items, or more general ones that apply (such as on "all project editors" or "all national bodies", etc.) ... Also, please let me know of any additions or changes to the agenda that are needed. Finally, are we prepared to go "online" fully? .... this is the direction that JTC1 and SC22 are taking, and we should consider the possibility of eliminating paper in all cases. This means email reflectors set up (we think we have this now), and all Project Editors, Liaisons and Member Bodies need to be able to access our web pages (where we will be posting draft standards, and archiving WG15 documents) ... please note your status in these areas in your report as well. thanks Jim ================================================================= Action Items Secretary The following action items were authorised by WG15: Old Action Items from Munich, October 1996: 9705-01 Japan and Netherlands - provide URLs and other information they would like posted to the WG15 web page (rolled over from 9510-08 on National Bodies and 9605-01 and 9610-01 on Japan and Netherlands). 9705-02 Denmark - report at the next WG15 meeting what the state of their LIS work is, and what they expect to be able to accomplish. (rolled over from 9510-23, 9505-24, 9605-05 and 9610-03). 9705-03 Convener - write a cover letter to Member Bodies to consider the general issue of subsetting base standards from within profiles during their review of 1003.13. (rolled over from 9510-34, which came from RGCPA issue #6, 9605-07 and 9610-05). 9705-04 U.S. - make all working drafts from the development body available in a manner consistent with the JTC1 on-line access policy. (rolled over from 9605-16 and 9610-07). 9705-05 Netherlands and Denmark - have their technical experts identify any specific elements of the Single UNIX Specification that should be included in POSIX. (rolled over from 9605-46 and 9610-09). 9705-06 Denmark and Japan - work with the WG15 SGFS liaison (Willem Wakker) to figure out how National Profiles could be incorporated into TR-10000. (rolled over from 9605-33 and 9610-13). 9705-07 Denmark - create a proposed scope and purpose for new IEEE 1003.2 utilities, which can then be used for both an SC22 work item and an IEEE PAR. (rolled over from 9605-36 and 9610-15). 9705-08 Editor of POSIX National Profiles and Locales (Keld Simonsen) - incorporate N658 into that document. (rolled over from 9605-48 and 9610-16). 9705-09 U.S. - provide assistance with the LIS PAR to be revised. (rolled over from 9605-49 and 9610-17). 9705-10 9945-2 Project Editor (Stephe Walli) - call and conduct an editing meeting to create, approve, and forward to the SC22 Secretariat, a disposition of comments for IEEE 1003.2b (JTC1.22.41). (R 96-334) after a review by the U.S., Japan, and Denmark Member Bodies. (rolled over from 9605-53 and 9610-18). 9705-11 9945-2 Project Editor (Casey Schaufler) - call and conduct an editing meeting to create, approve, and forward to the SC22 Secretariat, a disposition of comments for IEEE 1003.2c (JTC1.22.43) after a review by the U.S. and Netherlands Member Bodies. (R 96-334). SC22 N2173 (WG15 N683r refers as the ballot comments). (Rolled over from 9605-54 and 9610-19). 9705-12 9945-1 Project Editor (Casey Schaufler) - call and conduct an editing meeting to create, approve, and forward to the SC22 Secretariat, a disposition of comments for IEEE 1003.1e (JTC1.22.42). (R 96-334) after a review by the U.S. and Netherlands National Bodies. (Rolled over from 9605-55 and 9610-20). 9705-13 Project Editor (Stephe Walli) - call and conduct an editing meeting to create, approve, and forward to the SC22 Secretariat, a disposition of comments for IEEE 1003.1g Protocol Independent Interface (JTC1 22.21.01.03.03). (R 96-345). (rolled over from 9605-71 and 9610-25). 9705-14 Project Editor (Martin Kirk) - call and conduct an editing meeting to create, approve, and forward to the SC22 Secretariat, a disposition of comments for IEEE 1387.4 Print Administration (JTC1 22.15068-4). (R96-345). (rolled over from 9605-73 and 9610-26). 9705-15 Member Bodies - Review the Web pages, especially the document on Cultural Convention Specifications and report any comments to Keld Simonsen. (rolled over from 9610-33). 9705-16 U.S. - forward IEEE P1387.3 to the JTC1 secretariat for DIS balloting as soon as possible. (rolled over from 9610-35). 9705-17 U.S. - Ensure that IEEE Standard 2003.2 -1996 is forwarded for DIS ballot. (rolled over from 9610-40). 9705-18 U.S. - Forward IEEE Standard 1003.10 and Explanatory Reports to SC22 and WG15 for their review and comment. (rolled over from 9610-44). 9705-19 U.S. - Forward P1003.13 Explanatory Reports to SC22 and WG15 for review and comment. (rolled over from 9610-45). 9705-20 Convener - Conduct an electronic ballot on forwarding IEEE Standard 1003.10 and Explanatory Reports to SC22 for PDISP ballot. (rolled over from 9610-46). 9705-21 Convener - Conduct an electronic ballot on forwarding P1003.13 and Explanatory Reports to SC22 for Final PDISP ballot. (rolled over from 9610-47). 9705-22 Keld Simonsen - Forward SC22WG15.859 to Development body (1003.2), pointing out that this is where WG14 sees possible alignment for additional features which 1003.2 might want to consider in their future work, specifically currency and ISO date formats. (rolled over from 9610-48). 9705-23 Project Editor (Keld Simonsen) - Prepare an example of an LIS function of 9945-1 using both IDL and LID. Distribute these examples to WG15, requesting Member Bodies to review and comment on the work. (rolled over from 9610-52). 9705-24 Convener - Ensure that SEC N434r3 (Interpretation Guidelines) gets posted to the WG15 Web server. (rolled over from 9610-58). 9705-25 Convener - Forward the nomination of Don Folland as Project Editor of JTC1.22.38 and Norm Aaronson as Project Editor for JTC1.22.21.02.03 to SC22. (rolled over from 9610-63). 9705-26 Convener - Forward the disposition of comments contained in resolution 96-354 to JTC1/SC22. (rolled over from 9610-64). New Action Items from Exeter, May 1997: 9705-27 U.S. development body - consider and report on the appropriateness of TR10176 and the locale of 14652 as a possible solution to the problem of extended identifiers in 1003.2. The Danish Action Item report, N723, refers. 9705-28 Keld Simonsen - ensure the electronic version of the POSIX 1003.13 profiles presentation, emailed by Jim Oblinger, is made available on the WG15 web pages. 9705-29 Keld Simonsen - ensure the summary of the option annexes in the POSIX standards as presented in N732 is made available on the WG15 web pages. 9705-30 Convener - forward the latest copy of WG15 SD-6 to Keld Simonsen, WG15 webmaster, for inclusion on the protected web pages at dkuug.dk. 9705-31 Keld Simonsen - Forward the available additional detail on the proposal in email SC22WG15.859 to the Development Body (1003.2), indicating that this is where WG14 and WG20 see possible alignment for additional features which 1003.2 might want to consider in their future work, specifically currency and ISO date formats. 9705-32 U.S. - respond to both the original input (SC22WG15.859) from Keld Simonsen and also to the additional input to be provided as required by AI 9705-31. 9705-33 Member Bodies - provide feedback to Head of U.S. delegation (Roger Martin) by 11-July as to whether work on 1003.1m (Checkpoint/Restart) and 1003.1p (Resource Limits) should be pursued, and whether new, additional manpower can be provided - lack of extra manpower will result in withdrawal of sponsorship of the IEEE PARs and hence work by the U.S. development body. 9705-34 U.S. - put IEEE 2003 (aka 13210 Final CD) on-line as a test case for the new on-line document guidelines. 9705-35 Convener - to establish a procedure and to remind all Project Editors and Liaisons on 1-September-1997 to submit written reports to be received in time for the following WG15 meeting. 9705-36 Keld Simonsen - apply a global edit to the interpretations responses so that they refer to the appropriate ISO standards, and add the resulting document to the WG15 web pages in place of the IEEE-oriented version. 9705-37 Convener - submit a record of response to SC22, pointing to the interpretations responses/defect reports to be placed on the public WG15 web pages, at: http://www.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC22/WG15 9705-38 U.S. - forward WG15 N730 to the U.S. development body for its consideration and response. WG15 advises the U.S. that it believes the appropriate target should be the System Services group in IEEE PASC. 9705-39 Project Editor (Stephe Walli) to hold a editing meeting re work item 22.41 [1003.2b] , by the 18 July, to consider WG15 N679, conclude the discussion and create the final Disposition of Comments, and to forward these to WG15 for action. 9705-40 U.S. - send the appropriate document corresponding to 22.21.03.02 Batch Services {2d/15a} to ITTF for publication. SC22 N2232 refers as the ballot summary. 9705-41 Member Bodies - consider and report to the next WG15 meeting whether 22.21.03.01 (-) System Administration Overview {1387.1/7+} be withdrawn, or whether they can make available resources to progress the work. MBs should note that JTC1 regulations currently indicate that five MBs are necessary to endorse work on a proposed NP. 9705-42 Project Editor (Jay Ashford) - review the DIS ballot comments on 22.21.03.04 (-2) Software Administration {1387.2/7.2} (when available from SC22) and prepare a Disposition of Comments, if required, for consideration by WG15. 9705-43 U.S. - ensure the latest User Administration document corresponding to work item 22.21.03.05 (1387.3), is forwarded for submission for DIS ballot before August 1997, in order to avoid a 'Final CD' loop in the ISO balloting process. 9705-44 Project Editor (Stephe Walli) to prepare a Disposition of Comments relating to the PDAM registration ballot, (work item 22.21.40 Extensions to Real Time) (1003.1d) and forward it to WG15 for consideration. 9705-45 Convener - advise SC22 that the document corresponding to 14519 is being fast-tracked and that the 3-year review on this work item is not appropriate. 9705-46 All Project Editors - ensure they have or obtain the current copy of their documents' source, for archive purposes. 9705-47 U.S. - provide the appropriate draft to SC22 for PDAM-1 ballot on 14515-1 Test Methods for Real Time Extensions. (2003.1b), or report back on the status of the work. WG15 N707 is the summary of voting on the registration ballot. 9705-48 U.S. - provide the appropriate draft of 14515-2 Test Methods for 9945-2 (2003.2), in electronic form, for DIS ballot. 9705-49 U.S. - circulate the appropriate draft of the Supercomputing AEP, corresponding to WG15 work item 22.15287.01 (1003.10), to WG15 for review and comment. See also AI 9705-19. 9705-50 U.S. - provide to WG15 a final corrected and updated copy of the NP proposal form, describing the "New Project Request: Guide for Developing User Organisation OSE Profiles" for its information, and for reference in its Resolution 9505-365 to SC22. 9705-51 Project Editor (Stephe Walli) - produce a Disposition of Comments relating to work item 22.21.01.03.03 Protocol Independent Interface {1g/12} 9705-52 U.S. - forward Draft 6.6 relating to work item 22.21.01.03.03 Protocol Independent Interface {1g/12} for DAM ballot. 9705-53 Convener - seek an invitation from the U.S. and IEEE PASC to meet with them at their April 1998 meeting. 9705-54 Convener - search the SC22 resolutions for a precedent regarding the numbering of the LIS work as 9945-0, and approach ITTF with a request to use that identification. 9705-55 Member Bodies - seek volunteers for the post of WG15 Convener, to run for three years from September 1998 at the latest. Applicants should have sponsorship from their employers and from their National Bodies. 9705-56 Convener - draw up and distribute to WG15 a job description for prospective applicants, describing the duties of WG15 Convener. 9705-57 Keld Simonsen - find and make available on the WG15 web pages a copy of Form 14 for use with all future WG15 defect reports. 9705-58 U.S. - draw the attention of the development body to the requirement to use Form 14 for all future WG15 defect reports. See WG15 AI 9705-54. 9705-59 Convener - notify all Project Editors of the WG15 action items which have been assigned to them at this meeting. 9705-60 Keld Simonsen - ensure that all WG15 Project Editors are included on the WG15 email distribution list. Actions corresponding to Resolutions: 9705-61 Convener - request SC22 to withdraw project JTC1 22.21.01.03.01 (Transparent File Access) from the scope of work of SC22/WG15. Resolution 9705-361 refers. 9705-62 Convener - request SC22 to confirm the nomination of Michael Gonzalez as Project Editor for JTC1 22.21.04.01.01, (IEEE Advanced Real Time Extensions). Resolution 9705-362 refers. 9705-63 U.S. Member Body - forward the appropriate drafts of P1003.1a and P1003.1j to the SC22 Secretariat for Final PDAM Ballot. Resolution 9705-364 refers. 9705-64 Convener - advise SC22 that WG15 is aware that the U.S. Member Body is submitting a proposal to JTC1 for a NWI "Guide for Developing User Organization Open System Environment (OSE) Profiles", and that WG15 expresses its willingness to accept this work item should it be approved. Resolution 9705-365 refers. 9705-65 Convener - advise SC22 that WG15 accepts the following listed Defect Reports/Interpretations as being valid input to the interpretation process and accepts the proposed responses. Changes have been made to reference the appropriate ISO/IEC standards in the responses. ISO/IEC 9945-1:1990 - 01,03,05-08,10-14,16,18,19,23,27,29,30,32,34-41, 43-45,47-52,54,56-61,66,67,69-75 Real-Time 01-04,06-11 Real-Time & Threads - 01-04,06-16,18-22,24,27,,28,32 ISO/IEC 9945-2:1994 - 01-45,47-116,118-142,145-147 ISO/IEC 19519:1994 - 01-07,09 ISO/IEC 13210 - 01,04,05,07,13-15,17 Resolution 9705-366 refers. 9705-66 Convener - generate a Record of Response for submission to SC22 indicating that the responses to Defect Reports are available on the WG15 Web page (URL http://www.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC22/WG15/). Resolution 9705-367 refers. 9705-67 Convener - pass the Synchronisation Plan to SC22 for approval. Resolution 9705-368 refers. 9705-68 U.S. - forward the Synchronisation Plan to IEEE for approval. Resolution 9705-368 refers. 9705-69 Convener - notify ITTF that a printing erratum has been identified in the printed version of 9945-1:1996 2nd Edition, section 5.1.2.4, line 118. In the opendir function, the return value should be "NULL" but is erroneously printed as "-1". Convener to request ITTF to take any action necessary to notify existing purchasers of the standard and all future purchasers. Resolution 9705-369 refers. 9705-70 U.S. - convey to the U.S. development body at its next meeting that WG15 expresses its concern at the proposal to discuss the cessation of their POSIX standards development work and recommends that the excellent cooperation between WG15 and PASC continue in the area of POSIX standards development. Resolution 9705-370 refers. 9705-71 Convener - Request SC22 to extend work item 22.21.01.01 System Interface LIS {1372} for one further year. Jim Isaak =========================== Internet Practices Standards Study Group: see: http://computer.org/standard/Internet/ ======================== Home Office: 603-465-3131 email (external to Digital): j.isaak@computer.org email -- NEW: Jim.Isaak@DIGITAL.com Physical mail: Digital Equipment Corp. 21 Winding Valley Rd. 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