From isaak@ljo.dec.com Mon Sep 25 15:53:26 1995 Received: from ns.dknet.dk (root@ns.dknet.dk [193.88.44.42]) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA16665 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:39:43 +0100 Received: from mail2.digital.com by ns.dknet.dk with SMTP id AA10235 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Mon, 25 Sep 1995 15:39:26 +0100 Received: from vanna.ljo.dec.com by mail2.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA20654; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:16:40 -0700 Received: from csac by vanna.ljo.dec.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/10Oct94-8.2MPM) id AA18458; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:15:50 -0400 Received: by csac.ljo.dec.com; id AA11084; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:16:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:16:36 -0400 From: JimIsaak Message-Id: <9509251416.AA11084@csac.ljo.dec.com> To: sc22wg15@dkuug.dk Subject: SC22 report in HTML format X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Report to WG15 on SC22 Pleanary Meeting

Report to WG15 on SC22 Pleanary Meeting
(Sept. 1995, Annapolis, MD)

Actions for WG15 from the SC22 meeting

1. Review synchronization plan and recomend changes to 1996 SC22 meeting in light of new JTC1 balloting proceedures.

2. Request authorization from SC22 to fasttrack the Ada Real Time Extensions if this is the expected path. [suspend the 5 stage process]

3. SC22 has proposed moving to email and FTP distribution of documents as the prefered proceedure to begin later this year. This policy is to be consistent with the JTC1 Electronic Document Distribution process, and would be applicable to WG's as well. [Note, PASC is discussing the use of electronic mechanisms to accomplish their balloting, and this would lead to online copies of draft's.]

4. WG15 is tasked to review TC304's proposed work related to POSIX (TC304/PT01, SC22 N1961) specifically item's C/332 (support for Locale registry in POSIX operating system), L/1312 (update POSIX to cover more cultural conventions), and L/31 (update POSIX to include locale default rules)

5. We are to report an individual as the designated person for maintaining the WG15 web pages to SC22.

6. WG15 should withdraw amendment projects where the documents are complete, when these are incorporated into the main document (ie. there is no longer a separate document to track). This affects 9945-2Amd1, and amendments 1 & 2 for 9945-1 (after the combined publication).

7. SC22 has forwarded the NP for profile work to JTC1, once this is approved, WG15 should request a consultitive letter ballot for a division of this work item for those profiles that WG15 wishes to forward for ISP approval in the short term. (1003.18, 1003.10, ...)

Information from SC22 meeting:

New DIS proceedures: (See SC22 N1938) expected to apply to all DIS registrations after 4/96

1. No substanitive changes (even moderately editorial) at the DIS level (sent back for another CD)

2. Must declare "final CD" circulation; which might be the first CD (or even concurrent reg/CD)

3. Might affect the Synchronization plan

Amendments to POSIX documents

The JTC1 Directives (14.5.3) state: "each amendment shall list the status of all amendments and technical corregendia to the current edition of the standard.". WG15 needs to make sure as we bring forward additional amendments to our documents that we include this information.

The Fortran group is bringing forward "future capabilities" as type 2 technical reports, with a "committment" to implementors to incorporate these into Fortran 2000 if there are implementations, and these have not uncovered problems with these technical report specifications. One of the proposed topics for such a technical report is "interfacing to C language services". This particular project would provide a standardized interface from Fortran to POSIX (as well as any number of other API's defined with c interfaces.)

An "on-web" document register is availible for documents of JTC1, and a number of other groups. This is at: http://www.dkuug.dk/DS/S142/stdcom.

SC22 is forwarding a request to ITTF to be permitted to include paragraph numbers in our standards as an exception to the current ISO format limitations on this. We may want to include these in our next generation documents.

Actions at the SC22 meeting in response to WG15 requests for Action

Withdrawal of Work Items

Withdrawl of work item 22.21.01.03.04 (Directory Services for POSIX); as requested by WG15.
Withdrawal of work item 22.21.04.03 (Fortran Bindings for POSIX). Work may be initiated in this area in the future as expertise in Fortran 90 is developed, and expert resources are identified. The proposed work in the Fortran committee (C language interface) could also eliminate the need for this.

Extension of work reaching 3 year "CD" registration limit:

SC22 recommended extending the authorization for continuing work on the following work items with the expectation that these will be submitted for CD registration before the 1996 SC22 Plenary meeting:

[Relevant to                                                               
9945-0]                                                                    

22.21.01.01      Language Independent POSIX specification                  

[Relevant to                                                               
9945-1]                                                                    

22.21.01.03.01   Transparent File Access Extensions                        

22.21.01.03.03   Protocol Independent API Extensions                       

22.39            Extensions to System API base                             

22.40            Extensions for Real Time                                  

22.42            Security Amendment for System API                         

[Relevant to                                                               
9945-2]                                                                    

22.43            Security Amendment for Shell & Utilities                  

[Relevant to                                                               
15068]                                                                     

22.21.03.01      System Administration Overview [Umbrella NP, possible     
                 overview document]                                        

22.21.03.02      Batch Services [a portion of this work relevant to        
                 9945-2 has entered

Concurrent CD registration and ballot:

SC22 authorized WG15 to submit drafts relevant to the following work items for concurrent CD registration and ballot before the 1996 SC22 Plenary Meeting:

14515-2      Test Methods for 9945-2                                       
                           Final CD on initial registration??              

22.40        Amendment for additional real time functions                  

22.42        Amendment for security for 9945-1                             

22.21.01.03. Amendment for Transparent file access                         
01                                                                         

22.21.01.03. Amendment for Protocol Independent Interface                  
03                                                                         

22.43        Amendment for Security for 9945-2                             

22.21.03.05  System Administration - User                                  

22.21.03.03  System Administration - Print

SC22 Approval and forwarding of NWI for SC22 International Standardized Profile development.

SC22, as a result of a letter ballot with no negitive votes or comments, recommended to JTC1 the approval of the New Work Item presented in SC22 N1838

Category C liaison for X/Open to WG15

SC22 recommended to JTC1 the approval of Category C liaison between X/Open and SC22/WG15. Document SC22 N1871 is a mutual statement of benefits endorsed by both X/Open and WG15.

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Future SC22 meetings:

1996 Sept. 23-27 - Cheswick UK

1997 Aug 18-22 - Ottawa, Canada

1998 1st or 2nd week of Sept., Copenhagen, DK

1999

2000 Japan