From isaak@csac.zko.dec.com Fri Apr 15 08:52:07 1994 Received: from crl.dec.com by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA11727 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:55:09 +0200 Received: by crl.dec.com; id AA03066; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:49:54 -0400 Received: by csac (5.65/fma-100391/BobG-15-Feb-93);id AA07787; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:52:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:52:07 -0400 From: isaak@csac.zko.dec.com (Jim Isaak-NEW: respond via isaak@csac.enet.dec.com) Message-Id: <9404151652.AA07787@csac> To: sc22wg15@dkuug.dk Subject: Note from UK on OSE Profiles X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Below is a note from Dave Cannon, he suggests member bodies may want to consider this before the WG15 meeting. I will add it to the agenda. It was not obvious that this was distributed to WG15 as a whole, so here it is. Jim ================================================= Return-Path: us2rmc::D.Cannon@exeter.ac.uk Received: by csac (5.65/fma-100391/BobG-15-Feb-93); id AA04885; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:21:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:21:37 -0400 From: us2rmc::D.Cannon@exeter.ac.uk To: csac::isaak (Jim Isaak), sc22wg15@dkuug.dk (SC22/WG15 Posix) Cc: wg15-uk@xopen.co.uk (BSI IST/5/-/15 Posix panel) Subject: TR10000-3 Concerns To Jim Isaak, Convener, SC22/WG15 Dear Jim, The UK Posix group, IST/5/-/15, has had view of what we believe to be the current draft of TR10000-3, produced a few weeks ago. It appears to be about to adopt a severely restricted interpretation of 'OSE Profile' which would impact Posix work and which (less importantly from WG15's point of view) would impact the work of other standards committees and groups. The UK is hoping to add an expert on TR10000-3 matters to the UK delegation; if he is able to attend at all it will be for the Wednesday and Thursday of the WG15 plenary in Tokyo. We would much appreciate time to debate the issue during those two days. The problem, as we perceive it, is outlined below and this will form part of the UK report to WG15. We reproduce it below to give other MBs as much time as possible to consider it. Many thanks for your help. David Cannon, Convenor, IST/5/-/15 ________________________________________________________________ TR10000-3 Concerns The UK notes with some concern that there is a possibility that the scope of TR10000-3 may preclude the inclusion within OSE profiles of Platform Internal Interfaces (PIIs) as identified within P1003.0. This limitation would seriously limit the usefulness of OSE profiles, and should be avoided. The UK further notes that P1003.0 is intended merely to provide guidance on the POSIX environment, and is not a binding reference model on POSIX activities. PIIs are identified within P1003.0 as being necessary but beyond the scope of the P1003.0 guide. The definitions of interfaces within P1003.0 are imported into TR10000-3. The fact that PIIs are beyond the scope of the P1003.0 guide should not be imported to TR10000-3 and should not preclude all PIIs from inclusion in OSE profiles. Some types of PII may well be inappropriate, but many interfaces between software entities may be deemed appropriate for inclusion. Future POSIX work may involve and require the definition of such interfaces, and it is important to ensure that such interfaces can become part of OSE profiles in the future. For example, it is probable that there will be a need to define standard interfaces between application entities and parts of the management infrastructure, and also between different components of such an infrastructure. Accordingly, the UK believes that WG15 should adopt the position that PIIs should be permitted to be included in OSE profiles, and should communicate it to SGFS in the form of a liaison statement before the next SGFS meeting, in June 94, at which these issues will be discussed. UK BSI IST/5/-/15 (Posix) Panel 14-April-1994 -- _________________________________________________________________________ David Cannon University of Exeter, Computer Unit Laver Building, North Park Road Systems/Network Programmer Exeter, EX4 4QE, Devon, UK Phone: +44 (0)392 263998 Fax: +44 (0)392 211630 _________________________________________________________________________ % ====== Internet headers and postmarks (see DECWRL::GATEWAY.DOC) ====== % Received: from inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com by us2rmc.bb.dec.com (5.65/rmc-22feb94) id AA01011; Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:15:58 -040 % Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com (5.65/21Mar94) id AA17537; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:12:39 -070 % Via: uk.ac.exeter; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:12:09 +0100 % Received: from cen.exeter.ac.uk by exub.exeter.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <03380-0@exub.exeter.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:11:54 +010 % From: D.Cannon@exeter.ac.uk % Message-Id: <14738.9404142011@cen> % Subject: TR10000-3 Concerns % To: csac::isaak (Jim Isaak), sc22wg15@dkuug.dk (SC22/WG15 Posix) % Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:11:48 +0100 (BST) % Cc: wg15-uk@xopen.co.uk (BSI IST/5/-/15 Posix panel) % Acknowledge-To: D.Cannon@Exeter.ac.uk % X-Organisation: University of Exeter, Computer Unit % X-Disclaimer: The following is a personal statement and does not reflect University of Exeter policy or agreement % Content-Type: text % Content-Length: 3220