From ynk@osa.ilab.toshiba.co.jp Tue Dec 8 03:13:57 1992 Received: from iselgw.ilab.toshiba.co.jp ([133.196.1.31]) by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA17975 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Tue, 8 Dec 1992 03:13:57 +0100 Received: by TOSHIBA ISEL gateway (5.67+1.6W-MX); Tue, 8 Dec 92 11:13:53 JST +0900 Received: from ca1a.osa.ilab.toshiba.co.jp (ca1a) by yngicsl.ilab.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/6.4J.6-ilab_1.20) id AA28446; Tue, 8 Dec 92 11:10:55 JST Received: by ca1a.osa.ilab.toshiba.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-ilab_1.0) id AA12816; Tue, 8 Dec 92 11:12:53 JST Return-Path: Message-Id: <9212080212.AA12816@ca1a.osa.ilab.toshiba.co.jp> To: a.walker@xopen.co.uk, isaak@decvax.dec.com, sc22wg15@dkuug.dk From: ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp (Yasushi Nakahara) Subject: (urgent) Re: (SC22WG15.169) National Profile Issues Reply-To: ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp Date: Tue, 08 Dec 92 11:11:10 JST X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Hi Andrew and WG15 people, Great thanks to Andrew for making a report on National Profile issues. Several my comments below. | Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 17:35:12 GMT | From: Andrew Walker | To: dkuug.dk!sc22wg15 | Subject: (posix 1062) (SC22WG15.169) National Profile Issues | Dear WG15, | | I am very grateful to Nakahara-san for the valuable input which you will | have received today. I have taken the following steps, which I hope you | will find acceptable: | | 1 I have written a short introduction which explains what WG15 is | after Some parts of this sentence are missing. | 4 Kept the body of section 2 as an Appendix. It contains a large | amount of valuable input, but I did not wanted to make it easy | for the SGFS to focus on the issues. I agree. Also I am concerning whether a word "CONFORMANCE" in the appendix (or basically in my original text) is appropriate in discussing with SFGS people. They may misunderstand, for example, "N/A" for "(A) Conformance" subsection of POSIX.0 means that POSIX.0 does not consider (generic) Conformance issues. My original intention of such (A) subsection was "definitions of various types of conformance which are related to profiles" or "descriptions of relationship between profiles and conformance in concept". | I am unfortunately not going to be able to attend the whole SGFS meeting | this week. I intend to call in on before the meeting starts tomorrow and | give them the above document as a request for input. | | I will send a master copy to Jim to form a WG15 document, but in the | mean time here is a copy of the revised text: I certainly appreciate your effort in making a somewhat "formal" report to SGFS as a liaison statement, however, the following resolution from the WG15 9210 meeting may request us to do additional steps before submitting this report to the SGFS adhoc meeting, I'm afraid. > JTC1/SC22/WG15 RESOLUTIONS > October 29, 1992 > ..... > > RESOLUTION 92-220 Liaison Reports > > Whereas Liaison Reports are official communications between SC22/WG15 > and other standards authorities, and > > Whereas Liaison Reports represent official SC22/WG15 statements, > > Therefore, all SC22/WG15 Liaisons are instructed to submit their > Liaison Reports to SC22/WG15 to obtain a SC22/WG15 document number, > before the Liaison Reports are submitted to the groups with which they > are approved to liaise. Any comments on the proposed report or any suggestions on how to step further, from the WG15 people, in particular, the Convener, Jim? ... I'm happy if a "silent" approval or an "ex post facto" approval is okay in this case, however, at this moment I could only suggest you Andrew that this liaison report be submitted to the SGFS adhoc meeting as a unapproved document or a preliminary version of the liaison statement for their (SGFS) information. | Best Regards, | | Andrew Walker | | | | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | Title: Issues Relating to National Profiles | Source: ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 | Date: December 1992 | Status: Liaison Statement to ISO/IEC JTC1/SGFS | | | | INTRODUCTION | | At its meeting in October 1992, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 | discussed several issues relating to the development of, | and taxonomy for, national profiles. WG15 concluded that | it would welcome a report which described the SGFS | perspective on National Profiles, with especial | consideration of the use of the terms POSIX National | Profile, National Locale, and National Profile. | This liaison statement is a request for comment from the | SGFS which would provide guidance to SC22/WG15. | Section 1 describes the background to these issues, while | section 2 lists some questions on which SC22/WG15 would | welcome guidance. | In the Appendix are listed various uses of the terms | profile and conformance taken from ISO/IEC 9945-1, | ISO/IEC DIS 9945-2.2, and other SC22/WG15 documents. | Best Regards, Yasushi Nakahara TOSHIBA Corp. Phone: +81 428-33-1346|1347 Fax: +81 428-32-0018 Email: ynk@ome.toshiba.co.jp | ..!tsbome!ynk