From martin@xopen.co.uk Fri Nov 6 15:19:31 1992 Received: from ben.uknet.ac.uk by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA10282 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:50:01 +0100 Received: from eros.uknet.ac.uk by ben.uknet.ac.uk via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:37:11 +0000 Received: from xopen.co.uk by eros.uknet.ac.uk via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id <2926-0@eros.uknet.ac.uk>; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:21:03 +0000 Received: by xopen (1.36.108.3/15.6) id AA18151; Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:20:55 GMT Message-Id: <9211061520.AA18151@xopen.co.uk> Received: from localhost by xopuk with SMTP (1.36.108.3/16.2) id AA29430; Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:19:31 GMT To: sc22wg15@dkuug.dk Reply-To: m.kirk@xopen.co.uk Subject: WG15 Minutes (PostSCript 2 of 8) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 15:19:31 GMT From: Martin Kirk X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 393 233 1614 (The Modula 2 liaison report is WG15/N311. SC22WG13 has only just started to) 1614 SB 393 291 1608 (look at a POSIX binding. The WG13 desire to have provable software has some) 1608 SB 393 349 1472 (problems with POSIX specifications. WG13 hopes to have early drafts in) 1472 SB 393 407 1486 (Vancouver next May. and commence review in early 1994. The Modula 2) 1486 SB 393 465 1617 (standard is expressed in VDM and English. VDM takes precedence, English text) 1617 SB 393 523 419 (is purely descriptive.) 419 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 637 381 (2.6.3 SC22/WG11) 381 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 700 1575 (The liaison report is WG15/N309. SC22/WG11 would like to move the TCOS) 1575 SB 393 758 1605 (Guidelines for LIS Methods \(SC22 N1251\) forward as an IS TR Type 3. WG11) 1605 SB 393 816 1509 (does not have the manpower and wanted to know whether WG15 would be) 1509 SB 393 874 1643 (willing to move it forward. WG15 requested the US to produce input for a NP for) 1643 SB 393 932 1585 (forwarding this work as a TR \(Action item 9205-50\). The US believes that this) 1585 SB 393 990 1632 (could be done for the current work. In order to move the work forward we would) 1632 SB 393 1048 1574 (have to find members bodies who were willing to work on this item and also a) 1574 SB 393 1106 705 (Technical Editor for the document.) 705 SB 393 1222 1627 (The UK summarised as follows: We are not sure that the LIS work is mature and) 1627 SB 393 1280 1519 (we are not sure that we have the manpower to complete the work. Proposed) 1519 SB 393 1338 1569 (response to WG11 along the lines "It is under active consideration referencing) 1569 SB 393 1396 337 (Resolution 197".) 337 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 1510 247 (2.6.4 PCTE) 247 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 1573 1619 (N286, N289. There are not perceived to be any problems arising between WG15) 1619 SB 393 1631 1580 (and PCTE, which is being fast-tracked. The Convenor felt that the relationship) 1580 SB 393 1689 1642 (should be one of mutual knowledge so that conflicts are avoided. However, as the) 1642 SB 393 1747 1268 (2 groups use different terminology, this may not always work!) 1268 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 1861 572 (2.6.5 Security, SC27, SC21) 572 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 1924 673 (We now have no liaison to SC27.) 673 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 2038 778 (2.6.6 SC22/WG20, SC2/SC22 ad hoc) 778 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 2101 1605 (WG15/N312 is the liaison statement from last weeks WG20 meeting in Canada.) 1605 SB 393 2159 1603 (It takes notes of WG15 Resolution 190, and reports that they will maintain their) 1603 SB 393 2217 1584 (different terminology as it covers a wider area than our locale. Both groups are) 1584 SB 393 2275 1610 (working on extended identifiers, the WG15 approach is compatible with WG20.) 1610 SB 393 2333 1623 (WG15 Resolution 190 wanted charmaps included in the registry. WG20 believes) 1623 SB 393 2391 1611 (this is not necessary. WG20 now have a method which addresses short character) 1611 SB 393 2449 1594 (identifiers. RIN is drafting a Liaison Statement to address some of these points.) 1594 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 2563 240 (2.6.7 SGFS) 240 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 2626 1550 (N313, N314 are the liaison reports which have already submitted to RGCPA.) 1550 SB 393 2684 1564 (There are no outstanding actions from SGFS. There is a sub-group meeting in) 1564 SB 393 2742 525 (December on TR10000-3.) 525 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 2856 473 (2.6.8 CEN/CENELEC) 473 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 2919 1487 (CEN/CENELEC is discussing making a registration standard for collation) 1487 SB 393 2977 1647 (sequences and locales. They are not going to proceed with this at the current time,) 1647 SB 393 3035 1584 (ISO is felt to be the better place to do this. The US felt that these are important) 1584 SB 1158 3233 50 (12) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Times-Bold %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 13 13 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 393 233 1602 (issues for POSIX, and asked when will WG15 get the technical requirements so) 1602 SB 393 291 1548 (that they can be reviewed. The relevant committee is CEN TC304, Technical) 1548 SB 393 349 1508 (Committee on Character Sets. The work is approved, but no money has yet) 1508 SB 393 407 1625 (allocated, so the work has not commenced. The US was repeated that WG15 still) 1625 SB 393 465 1578 (needed to know when it can evaluate the impact of the requirements. Denmark) 1578 SB 393 523 1616 (reported that it's contribution to TC304 is very much in line with what they have) 1616 SB 393 581 420 (submitted to POSIX.) 420 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 695 571 (2.6.9 SC15 Media Formats) 571 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 758 328 (See section 4.2.) 328 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 872 646 (2.6.10 SC21 API Study Group) 646 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 935 1590 (SC22 N1178 refers. JTC 1 has a policy that if an SC is going to start work on a) 1590 SB 393 993 1622 (large new area of work it should have a study period first. As SC21 was going to) 1622 SB 393 1051 1591 (look at APIs they decided to take this approach. The document notes that SC22) 1591 SB 393 1109 1611 (has interest in these areas and invites SC22 to comment on it. SC21 decided that) 1611 SB 393 1167 1542 (for administration purposes it would allow that study to be done by its WG7,) 1542 SB 393 1225 427 (which includes ODP.) 427 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 1339 647 (2.6.11 OIW request for liaison) 647 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 1402 1647 (N290 refers. The document designates J J Cinecoe as liaison from OIW to WG15.) 1647 SB 393 1460 1538 (The US pointed out that the JTC 1 directives indicate that organisations with) 1538 SB 393 1518 1587 (Category S status can liaise to SCs, not WGs and RGs. Therefore the request is) 1587 SB 393 1576 263 (mis-directed.) 263 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 1715 229 (2.7 Editor) 229 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 1833 1705 (The Project Editor's report is N307. 9945-2 will not have line numbers. Some people) 1705 SB 318 1891 1720 (hate this, others love it. As a result the IEEE standard and the IS may not be page for) 1720 SB 318 1949 292 (page identical.) 292 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2088 842 (2.8 Rapporteur Group report/status) 842 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 2207 292 (2.8.1 Security) 292 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 2270 1545 (The RGSec report is WG15/N320. The report was presented by Jon Spencer.) 1545 SB 393 2444 1569 (It is required to transmit D13 of P1003.6 to SC21 and SC27. A resolution was) 1569 SB 393 2502 629 (developed to address this issue.) 629 SB 393 2618 1578 (RGSec recommends that it should continue in existence as there is outstanding) 1578 SB 393 2676 1630 (current work, notably X.400 and X.500. In addition there is increasing activity in) 1630 SB 393 2734 1408 (this whole area of security and there is therefore a continuing need for) 1408 SB 393 2792 459 (coordination activities.) 459 SB 393 2908 1629 (It was also felt that the Danish No vote on N304 could be addressed in one of the) 1629 SB 393 2966 1422 (small groups by the production of a suitable Disposition of Comments.) 1422 SB 1158 3233 50 (13) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Bold %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 14 14 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 393 233 1619 (Japan noted that their was discussion on issues related to internationalisation and) 1619 SB 393 291 1623 (audit logs. The need for a resolution was identified, but at the current time it was) 1623 SB 393 349 1451 (felt that further information was required before that resolution could be) 1451 SB 393 407 205 (identified.) 205 SB 393 524 1632 (Japan further identified problems in the usage of the terms "character" and "byte") 1632 SB 393 582 1487 (in the P1003.6 document. RIN should be requested to provide guidance to) 1487 SB 393 640 1430 (standards developers in order to avoid such problems in the future. The) 1430 SB 393 698 1538 (specification of character-oriented interfaces require careful consideration of) 1538 SB 393 756 1634 (internationalisation issues that do not affect interfaces specified in terms of bytes.) 1634 SB 393 930 1571 (US nominated Jon Spencer as Lead Rapporteur for RGSec and as liaison from) 1571 SB 393 988 1647 (WG15 to SC27 and SC21. Canada nominated Lionel Boiteau as Lead Rapporteur,) 1647 SB 393 1046 616 (and liaison to SC27 and SC21.) 616 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 1160 577 (2.8.2 Conformance Testing) 577 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 1223 1628 (The RGCT report is N322. Roger Martin presented the report. 7 resolutions were) 1628 SB 393 1281 653 (generated in the RGCT meeting.) 653 SB 393 1397 1571 (P1003.3 has been mis-registered as a Type 3 Technical Report rather than as a) 1571 SB 393 1455 1616 (new standard. A resolution instructs the Convenor to notify the SC22 Secretariat) 1616 SB 393 1513 1474 (and request them to fix it ASAP. This is a very important issue to RGCT.) 1474 SB 393 1571 1629 (WG15/N299 was not circulated effectively, and indicated that P1003.3 should be) 1629 SB 393 1629 1224 (a Technical Report. This was probably a typographical error.) 1224 SB 393 1746 1558 (Roger Martin is stepping down as the RGCT Lead Rapporteur. He will attend) 1558 SB 393 1804 941 (Heidelberg, but a new Lead Rapporteur is sort.) 941 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 1918 540 (2.8.3 Internationalisation) 540 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 1981 1237 (The RIN report is N323. Keld Simonsen presented the report.) 1237 SB 393 2097 1644 (RIN discussed the comments received. RIM intends to produce Technical Reports) 1644 SB 393 2155 1484 (on both profiles and locales. It was felt that there was a need to clarify the) 1484 SB 393 2213 1012 (relationship between RIN and the SGFS activities.) 1012 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 48 /Times-Bold /font33 ANSIFont font 393 2330 576 (2.8.4 Profile Co-ordination) 576 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 393 2393 1607 (The RGCPA report is N321. Arnie Powell reported on the RGCPA meeting and) 1607 SB 393 2451 1018 (presented the resolutions arising from the meeting.) 1018 SB 393 2567 1640 (RGCPA had discussions on status of EWOS and OIW, and believed that category) 1640 SB 393 2625 1592 (S liaison allowed them to participate without having to seek catagory C liaison.) 1592 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2764 513 (2.9 Resolution Status) 513 SB 318 2905 1573 (2.10 Proposals for consideration of additional resolutions/actions) 1573 SB 318 3046 1224 (2.11 Considerations related to Category "C" liaison) 1224 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (14) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Bold %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 15 15 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 318 291 1662 (N306, the UK response to C Liaison was discussed during the small group session.) 1662 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 430 936 (2.12 Synchronisation of Interpretations) 936 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 548 1603 (WG15/N302 refers. TCOS is working on updating the synchronisation plan and) 1603 SB 318 606 1675 (suggested that WG15 wait until the May 1993 meeting to discuss this updated plan.) 1675 SB 32 0 0 50 50 1 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 828 785 (3.0 Actions Arising from Reports) 785 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 944 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 944 50 (21) 50 SB 629 944 17 (:) 17 SB 768 944 1196 (Member Bodies: Identify experts who could participate in a) 1196 SB 768 1003 1115 (meeting on character sets and character set concepts in) 1115 SB 768 1062 1194 (Copenhagen, April 21-23, 1993. Input should be sent to the) 1194 SB 768 1121 687 (WG15 convenor by December 1st.) 687 SB 318 1239 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1239 50 (22) 50 SB 629 1239 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1239 1195 (Member Bodies: Review WG15/N330 and provide feedback) 1195 SB 768 1298 622 (through their RIN rapporteurs.) 622 SB 318 1415 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1415 50 (23) 50 SB 629 1415 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1415 1210 (Member Bodies: Bring the issues of stateful encoding within) 1210 SB 768 1474 1144 (the new WG14 activities to the attention of their national) 1144 SB 768 1533 1263 (experts, with special care given to issues that may conflict with) 1263 SB 768 1592 155 (9945-2.) 155 SB 318 1709 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1709 50 (24) 50 SB 629 1709 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1709 1200 ( WG15/WG11 Liaison: Forward proposed answer to WG11) 1200 SB 768 1768 542 (regarding LIS Guide work.) 542 SB 318 1886 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1886 50 (25) 50 SB 629 1886 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1886 1156 (US: Take N309 into account in their Draft NP for the LIS) 1156 SB 768 1945 112 (work.) 112 SB 318 2063 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2063 50 (26) 50 SB 629 2063 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2063 1213 (CEN/CENELEC Liaison: Forward contributions received in) 1213 SB 768 2122 686 (CEN/CENELEC TC304 to WG15.) 686 SB 318 2240 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2240 50 (27) 50 SB 629 2240 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2240 1160 (Member Bodies: Review and comment on areas of mutual) 1160 SB 768 2299 1199 (interest between WG15 and SC21 contained in WG15 N324) 1199 SB 768 2358 1067 (\(SC22/N1178\). Forward comments to both SC21 and) 1067 SB 768 2417 263 (SC22/WG15.) 263 SB 318 2535 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2535 50 (28) 50 SB 629 2535 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2535 1159 (Convenor: Respond to OIW expressing that request for S-) 1159 SB 768 2594 1257 (Liaison is inappropriate for WG15, it should have been sent to) 1257 SB 768 2653 1249 (SC22. However, it is our understanding that they are welcome) 1249 SB 768 2712 1203 (to participate in WG15 Rapporteur Group meetings without) 1203 SB 768 2771 291 (such a liaison.) 291 SB 318 2889 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2889 50 (29) 50 SB 629 2889 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2889 1262 (RGSec Lead Rapporteur: Respond to the SC27 liaison request.) 1262 SB 768 2948 1185 (The proposed response is to be circulated within WG15 for) 1185 SB 768 3007 1213 (approval prior to its transmission to SC27. If the response is) 1213 SB 768 3066 841 (approved it should be forwarded to SC27.) 841 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (15) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 16 16 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 290 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 290 50 (30) 50 SB 629 290 17 (:) 17 SB 768 290 1199 ( Member Bodies: Comment on the proposed response to the) 1199 SB 768 349 1151 (SC27 liaison request in time for its transmission to SC27.) 1151 SB 318 467 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 467 50 (31) 50 SB 629 467 17 (:) 17 SB 768 467 1117 (RGSec Lead Rapporteur: Identify and carry through an) 1117 SB 768 526 613 (appropriate response to N144.) 613 SB 318 644 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 644 50 (32) 50 SB 629 644 17 (:) 17 SB 768 644 1262 (RIN Lead Rapporteur: Investigate the production of guidelines) 1262 SB 768 703 1224 (for standards developers for the usage of the terms character) 1224 SB 768 762 1242 (and byte in the definition of interfaces, with especial attention) 1242 SB 768 821 1254 (to the internationalisation issues arising from character-based) 1254 SB 768 880 209 (interfaces.) 209 SB 318 998 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 998 50 (33) 50 SB 629 998 17 (:) 17 SB 768 998 1101 (US and Canada: Nominees for the post of RGSec Lead) 1101 SB 768 1057 1139 (Rapporteur to provide a short statement to the Convenor) 1139 SB 768 1116 1200 (describing their qualifications relevant to fulfilling this post) 1200 SB 768 1175 1258 (within 2 weeks of the end of the October 1992 WG15 meeting.) 1258 SB 318 1292 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1292 50 (34) 50 SB 629 1292 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1292 1212 (Convenor: Initiate a letter ballot for the post of RGSec Lead) 1212 SB 768 1351 1254 (Rapporteur, and to circulate the short qualification statements) 1254 SB 768 1410 1164 (from the candidates along with the letter ballot. The letter) 1164 SB 768 1469 1177 (ballot is to be initiated within 3 weeks of the October 1992) 1177 SB 768 1528 312 (WG15 meeting.) 312 SB 318 1646 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1646 50 (35) 50 SB 629 1646 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1646 1268 (Convenor: Notify SC21 and SC27 that Lionel Boiteau has been) 1268 SB 768 1705 667 (appointed as liaison from WG15.) 667 SB 318 1823 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1823 50 (36) 50 SB 629 1823 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1823 1097 (Convenor: Notify ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat by) 1097 SB 768 1882 1258 (November 6th, 1992 of the error in the registration of P1003.3) 1258 SB 768 1941 1189 (and request that the error be corrected as soon as possible.) 1189 SB 318 2059 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2059 50 (37) 50 SB 629 2059 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2059 1082 (Convenor: Express the thanks of WG15 to X/Open for) 1082 SB 768 2118 855 (supplying a copy of their standards policy.) 855 SB 318 2236 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2236 50 (38) 50 SB 629 2236 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2236 1051 (US: Provide an updated synchronisation plan which) 1051 SB 768 2295 1216 (incorporates interpretations \(WG15/N302\), prior to the May) 1216 SB 768 2354 1043 (1993 WG15 meeting, for discussion at that meeting.) 1043 SB 318 2471 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2471 50 (39) 50 SB 629 2471 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2471 1240 (Member Bodies: Review N302 and N305 and provide input to) 1240 SB 768 2530 1235 (the US regarding any concerns or recommendations that they) 1235 SB 768 2589 1264 (may have regarding synchronisation as soon as possible. Work) 1264 SB 768 2648 1131 (will be done on this at the Jan. 10 1993 TCOS meetings.) 1131 SB 318 2766 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2766 50 (40) 50 SB 629 2766 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2766 1252 (Member Bodies: Nominate candidates for the position of Lead) 1252 SB 768 2825 1195 (Rapporteur for RGCT in time for selection at the May 1993) 1195 SB 768 2884 434 (SC22/WG15 meeting.) 434 SB 318 3001 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 3001 50 (41) 50 SB 629 3001 17 (:) 17 SB 768 3001 1097 (Convenor: Notify ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat by) 1097 SB 768 3060 1258 (November 6th, 1992 of the error in the registration of P1003.3) 1258 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (16) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 17 17 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 768 231 1189 (and request that the error be corrected as soon as possible.) 1189 SB 768 290 349 (\(Resolution 203\).) 349 SB 318 408 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 408 50 (42) 50 SB 629 408 17 (:) 17 SB 768 408 1250 (Convenor: Conduct a consultative letter ballot of SC22/WG15) 1250 SB 768 467 1241 (to determine the acceptability of the text of WG15 N331 as an) 1241 SB 768 526 629 (NP proposal. \(Resolution 205\).) 629 SB 318 635 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 635 50 (43) 50 SB 629 635 17 (:) 17 SB 768 635 1219 (Convenor: Forward N331 to JTC 1/SC22 as an NP proposal) 1219 SB 768 694 1191 (should the WG15 consultative ballot close with no negative) 1191 SB 768 753 1222 (ballots and with no substantive ballot comments. \(Resolution) 1222 SB 768 812 105 (205\).) 105 SB 318 930 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 930 50 (44) 50 SB 629 930 17 (:) 17 SB 768 930 1195 (US: Provide the WG15 Convenor with a copy of IEEE Std.) 1195 SB 768 989 1279 (1003.3.1-1992 for submission for CD registration subject to the) 1279 SB 768 1048 912 (approval of the related NP. \(Resolution 206\).) 912 SB 318 1166 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1166 50 (45) 50 SB 629 1166 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1166 1184 (Convenor: Forward a copy of IEEE Std. 1003.3.1-1992 to) 1184 SB 768 1225 1110 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 for CD registration subject to the) 1110 SB 768 1284 899 (approval of the related NP. \(Resolution 206\)) 899 SB 318 1402 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1402 50 (46) 50 SB 629 1402 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1402 1196 (US: Bring forward for SC22/WG15 consideration any work) 1196 SB 768 1461 1120 (related to Test Methods under development in the US in) 1120 SB 768 1520 1269 (accordance with the agreed synchronisation plan subject to the) 1269 SB 768 1579 758 (approval of the NP. \(Resolution 207\).) 758 SB 318 1697 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1697 50 (47) 50 SB 629 1697 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1697 1223 (US: Circulate IEEE P1003.3.2 to WG15 members for review) 1223 SB 768 1756 643 (and comment. \(Resolution 208\).) 643 SB 318 1873 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1873 50 (48) 50 SB 629 1873 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1873 1277 (SGFS Liaison: Forward document WG15/N297 \(P1003.0 Draft) 1277 SB 768 1932 1093 (15\), document WG15/N164 \(P1003.18 Draft 3\) SGFS.) 1093 SB 768 1991 349 (\(Resolution 209\).) 349 SB 318 2109 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2109 50 (49) 50 SB 629 2109 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2109 1252 (Member Bodies and Liaisons: Offer specific recommendations) 1252 SB 768 2168 1010 (on how profiles can be constructed in areas where) 1010 SB 768 2227 1132 (standardisation work is incomplete, and where there are) 1132 SB 768 2286 1241 (insufficient standards to meet fully the user need. \(Resolution) 1241 SB 768 2345 105 (210\).) 105 SB 318 2463 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2463 50 (50) 50 SB 629 2463 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2463 1044 (US: Provide IEEE 1003.0 \(Draft 16 or later\), to the) 1044 SB 768 2522 834 (SC22/WG15 Convenor. \(Resolution 211\).) 834 SB 318 2640 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2640 50 (51) 50 SB 629 2640 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2640 1268 (Convenor: Forward the version of P1003.0 provided by the US) 1268 SB 768 2699 1216 (to the ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat for registration as a) 1216 SB 768 2758 1048 (CD for a Type 3 Technical report. \(Resolution 211\).) 1048 SB 318 2876 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2876 50 (52) 50 SB 629 2876 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2876 1096 (Convenor: Notify SC21/WG4 that Mr M Kirk has been) 1096 SB 768 2935 1094 (appointed liaison from SC22/WG15. \(Resolution 212\).) 1094 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (17) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 18 18 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 231 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 231 50 (53) 50 SB 629 231 17 (:) 17 SB 768 231 1176 (Convenor: Notify SC22/WG13 that Mr K Hopper has been) 1176 SB 768 290 1094 (appointed liaison from SC22/WG15. \(Resolution 213\).) 1094 SB 318 408 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 408 50 (54) 50 SB 629 408 17 (:) 17 SB 768 408 1246 (Convenor: Notify SC27 that Mr L Boiteau has been appointed) 1246 SB 768 467 881 (liaison from SC22/WG15. \(Resolution 214\).) 881 SB 318 585 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 585 50 (55) 50 SB 629 585 17 (:) 17 SB 768 585 1150 (Convenor: Notify SC21/WG1 that Mr L Boiteau has been) 1150 SB 768 644 1082 (appointed liaison from SC22/WG15. \(resolution 215\).) 1082 SB 318 762 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 762 50 (56) 50 SB 629 762 17 (:) 17 SB 768 762 1273 (Convenor: Forward the WG15/N319 document to ECMA TC33) 1273 SB 768 821 859 (for review and comment. \(Resolution 216\).) 859 SB 318 939 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 939 50 (57) 50 SB 629 939 17 (:) 17 SB 768 939 1040 (US: Forward P1003.6 Draft 13 to the Convenor for) 1040 SB 768 998 1053 (registration as a WG15 document. \(Resolution 217\).) 1053 SB 318 1116 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1116 50 (58) 50 SB 629 1116 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1116 1226 (SC21/WG1 and SC27 Liaison: Forward the WG15 document) 1226 SB 768 1175 1119 (\(P1003.6, Draft 13\) submitted by the US for review and) 1119 SB 768 1234 1119 (comment to both SC21/WG1 and SC27. Input should be) 1119 SB 768 1293 1188 (requested within the time period allowed to members of the) 1188 SB 768 1352 1208 (balloting group for P1003.6. The Liaison to SC21/WG1 and) 1208 SB 768 1411 1221 (SC27 to forward the responses from SC21/WG1 and SC27 to) 1221 SB 768 1470 1123 (the P1003.6 ballot resolution group in a timely manner.) 1123 SB 768 1529 349 (\(Resolution 217\).) 349 SB 318 1647 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1647 50 (59) 50 SB 629 1647 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1647 1265 (Convenor: Audit all JTC 1, SC22 and WG15 ballots and ballot) 1265 SB 768 1706 1096 (resolutions concerning SC22/WG15. \(Resolution 218\).) 1096 SB 318 1824 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1824 50 (60) 50 SB 629 1824 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1824 1246 (Convenor: Distribute a report of the results of the ballot audit) 1246 SB 768 1883 975 (prior to its May 1993 meeting. \(Resolution 218\).) 975 SB 318 2001 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2001 50 (61) 50 SB 629 2001 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2001 1251 (Convenor: Make discussion of the ballot audit an agenda item) 1251 SB 768 2060 1015 (at the May 1993 WG15 meeting. \(Resolution 218\).) 1015 SB 318 2178 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2178 50 (62) 50 SB 629 2178 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2178 1228 (Project Editor: In consultation with the US, to report back at) 1228 SB 768 2237 1240 (the May 1993 WG15 meeting on the feasibility of merging the) 1240 SB 768 2296 1264 (real time extensions into 9945-1LIS before 9945-1LIS becomes) 1264 SB 768 2355 1280 (an international standard taking into account the provision that) 1280 SB 768 2414 1254 (this should be done without adversely affecting the progress of) 1254 SB 768 2473 1129 (the existing C-language versions of P1003.4 \(Real-Time) 1129 SB 768 2532 1113 (Extensions\) and P1003.4a \(Threads\). \(Resolution 219\).) 1113 SB 318 2650 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2650 50 (63) 50 SB 629 2650 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2650 1200 (France: Identify any potential semantic differences between) 1200 SB 768 2709 1196 (IEEE Std. 1003.5-1992 and ISO 9945-1:1990 and report to) 1196 SB 768 2768 1244 (WG15 before the May 1993 WG15 meeting. \(Resolution 221\).) 1244 SB 318 2886 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2886 50 (64) 50 SB 629 2886 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2886 1253 (Member Bodies: Consider the advisability of registering IEEE) 1253 SB 768 2945 1263 (P1003.5-1992 as a Type 2 Technical Report. \(Resolution 221\).) 1263 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (18) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 19 19 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 231 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 231 50 (65) 50 SB 629 231 17 (:) 17 SB 768 231 1165 (Convenor: Forward the Liaison Statement WG15/N327 to) 1165 SB 768 290 121 (SC15.) 121 SB 318 408 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 408 50 (66) 50 SB 629 408 17 (:) 17 SB 768 408 1165 (Convenor: Forward the Liaison Statement WG15/N328 to) 1165 SB 768 467 263 (SC22/WG14.) 263 SB 318 585 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 585 50 (67) 50 SB 629 585 17 (:) 17 SB 768 585 1067 (SC22/WG20 Liaison: Forward the Liaison Statement) 1067 SB 768 644 578 (WG15/N328 to SC22/WG20.) 578 SB 318 762 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 762 50 (68) 50 SB 629 762 17 (:) 17 SB 768 762 1067 (SC22/WG11 Liaison: Forward the Liaison Statement) 1067 SB 768 821 553 (WG15/N28 to SC22/WG21.) 553 SB 318 939 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 939 50 (69) 50 SB 629 939 17 (:) 17 SB 768 939 1067 (SC22/WG20 Liaison: Forward the Liaison Statement) 1067 SB 768 998 578 (WG15/N329 to SC22/WG20.) 578 SB 318 1116 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1116 50 (70) 50 SB 629 1116 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1116 78 (US:) 78 SB 768 1234 38 (1.) 38 SB 918 1234 1057 (Consider the support of shell programming interface) 1057 SB 768 1293 1255 (internationalisation enhancement facilities in early versions of) 1255 SB 768 1352 100 (9945) 100 SB 868 1352 1068 (-1 amendments \(such as P1003.1a\) currently in plan.) 1068 SB 768 1470 38 (2.) 38 SB 918 1470 1094 (Inform SC22/WG15 of any plans for synchronising the) 1094 SB 768 1529 895 (internationalisation interfaces between 9945) 895 SB 1663 1529 243 (-1 and 9945) 243 SB 1906 1529 55 (-2.) 55 SB 768 1647 349 (\(Resolution 222\).) 349 SB 318 1815 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1815 50 (71) 50 SB 629 1815 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1815 78 (US:) 78 SB 768 1933 38 (1.) 38 SB 918 1933 986 (Consider the LIS and language-binding interface) 986 SB 768 1992 1204 (changes necessary to handle character-oriented features as) 1204 SB 768 2051 1223 (symbol and not storage patterns for a future revision of 9945) 1223 SB 1991 2051 55 (-1.) 55 SB 768 2169 38 (2.) 38 SB 918 2169 1061 (Inform SC22/WG15 of any plans for supporting such) 1061 SB 768 2228 1217 (features in future revisions of all parts of the 9945 Standard.) 1217 SB 768 2346 349 (\(Resolution 223\).) 349 SB 318 2514 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2514 50 (72) 50 SB 629 2514 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2514 1247 (SGFS Liaison and RIN rapporteurs: Discuss how to provide a) 1247 SB 768 2573 1225 (report describing the SGFS perspective on National Profiles,) 1225 SB 768 2632 1156 (with especial consideration of the use of the terms POSIX) 1156 SB 768 2691 1150 (National Profile, National Locales, and National Profile.) 1150 SB 318 2809 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2809 50 (73) 50 SB 629 2809 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2809 1070 (SGFS Liaison: Provide a report describing the SGFS) 1070 SB 768 2868 1275 (perspective on National Profiles, with especial consideration of) 1275 SB 768 2927 1264 (the use of the terms POSIX National Profile, National Locales,) 1264 SB 768 2986 428 (and National Profile.) 428 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (19) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 20 20 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 231 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 231 50 (74) 50 SB 629 231 17 (:) 17 SB 768 231 1170 (Member Bodies: Reply directly to the Chair of the Ad Hoc) 1170 SB 768 290 1227 (committee, \(Lorraine Kevra\) before 1 Feb. 1993 stating their) 1227 SB 768 349 1261 (opinions in respect to questions 4,5,8, and 9 in the SC22 Cross) 1261 SB 768 408 860 (Language Questionnaire. \(Resolution 226\)) 860 SB 318 526 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 526 50 (75) 50 SB 629 526 17 (:) 17 SB 768 526 1181 (Convenor: Request JTC 1/SC22 WGs developing language) 1181 SB 768 585 1217 (bindings to reply directly to the Chair of the SC22/WG15 Ad) 1217 SB 768 644 1262 (Hoc committee \(Lorraine Kevra\) before 1 Feb. 1993 in answer) 1262 SB 768 703 1228 (to the technical questions 11-17 in the SC22 Cross Language) 1228 SB 768 762 647 (Questionnaire. \(Resolution 226\)) 647 SB 318 880 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 880 50 (76) 50 SB 629 880 17 (:) 17 SB 768 880 1181 (Lorraine Kevra: Incorporate answers to the administrative) 1181 SB 768 939 1258 (questions in the SC22 Cross Language Questionnaire with any) 1258 SB 768 998 1256 (other responses received from Member Bodies and other SC22) 1256 SB 768 1057 1176 (WGs and to reply to JTC 1/SC22 on behalf of SC22/WG15) 1176 SB 768 1116 819 (before 1st March 1993. \(Resolution 226\)) 819 SB 32 0 0 50 50 1 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 1283 1053 (4.0 Project Activities - registration, balloting) 1053 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 1424 241 (4.1 9945-1) 241 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 1542 1703 (The UK has been discussing the concept of a new class of conformance, "Rigorously) 1703 SB 318 1600 278 (Conforming".) 278 SB 318 1716 1667 (The argument is that even "strictly conforming" POSIX applications do not require) 1667 SB 318 1774 1701 (conformance to the Language standard; e.g. strictly conforming only needs to satisfy) 1701 SB 318 1832 643 (the requirements of the binding.) 643 SB 318 1948 1708 ("Rigorously Conforming" would combine strictly conforming to the POSIX standard) 1708 SB 318 2006 1699 (with strictly conforming to the language standard. \(The objective of the higher level) 1699 SB 318 2064 1617 (class of conformance is to increase the level of portability of an application even) 1617 SB 318 2122 133 (more\).) 133 SB 318 2238 1700 (The outcome of the discussion was that the UK. body should be requested to prepare) 1700 SB 318 2296 1702 (an expert contribution describing the proposed new class of conformance and submit) 1702 SB 318 2354 1713 (it to the development body for consideration. The US raised the point that it may not) 1713 SB 318 2412 1687 (be appropriate to incorporate a condition in one standard \(e.g. POSIX\) that could be) 1687 SB 318 2470 1426 (construed to impact the interpretation of another standard \(e.g. ISO C\);) 1426 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 2584 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2584 50 (77) 50 SB 629 2584 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2584 1081 (US: Consider the UK contribution on a proposed new) 1081 SB 768 2643 871 (Rigorously Conforming conformance class.) 871 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 2762 1676 (WG15/N304 is the Danish response to NP's for security amendments to 9945-1 and) 1676 SB 318 2820 1677 (9945-2. Denmark's objection to the NPs was based on the absence of authentication) 1677 SB 318 2878 1703 (from the proposed scope of work. It would seem that this should have been resolved) 1703 SB 318 2936 367 (at the JTC 1 level.) 367 SB 1158 3233 50 (20) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 21 21 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 318 233 1605 (A draft resolution dealing with the problem was prepared but it was not brought) 1605 SB 318 291 1548 (forward as the group drafting the resolution felt that it did not have sufficient) 1548 SB 318 349 250 (information.) 250 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 463 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 463 50 (78) 50 SB 629 463 17 (:) 17 SB 768 463 1258 (Denmark: Provide more information related to WG15/N304 in) 1258 SB 768 522 1110 (time for consideration at the May 1993 WG15 meeting.) 1110 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 641 1639 (WG15/N288 constitutes a test of the interpretations process pursuant to an action) 1639 SB 318 699 1674 (item on Denmark at the NZ meeting. The interpretations committee did not meet in) 1674 SB 318 757 968 (April. It should meet in January and take action.) 968 SB 318 873 1662 (WG15/N291 appears to be a liaison statement re LIS Spec Guideline. No action is) 1662 SB 318 931 1097 (required if WG15 does not advance an NP in this area.) 1097 SB 318 1047 1702 (The question of whether .4 should be incorporated before .1LIS reaches the IS stage.) 1702 SB 318 1163 1718 (There was a question of how useful the .1 LIS is. New Zealand found it easier to read) 1718 SB 318 1221 1686 (than the C binding; however a "programmer" found the two book format difficult to) 1686 SB 318 1279 218 (work with.) 218 SB 318 1395 1696 (France had some concerns related to the structure and synchronisation of .4c. France) 1696 SB 318 1453 1581 (wants .4 to progress to DIS level, but no further than that until .1 LIS is a DIS;) 1581 SB 318 1511 1472 (advancing a thick binding to the CD level would be acceptable to France.) 1472 SB 318 1627 1627 (At least one member body, the US, will vote against CD ballot of .4, preferring a) 1627 SB 318 1685 1510 (second CD ballot. The general consensus was to go for a second CD ballot.) 1510 SB 318 1801 1627 (It was proposed to hold a ballot resolution group meeting in conjunction with the) 1627 SB 318 1859 1705 (IEEE meeting in New Orleans in January 1993. Some concerns over synchronisation) 1705 SB 318 1917 1711 (issues and whether timescale mis-match would make such a meeting productive were) 1711 SB 318 1975 209 (expressed.) 209 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 2089 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2089 50 (79) 50 SB 629 2089 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2089 1160 (Project Editor: Convene a ballot resolution group in New) 1160 SB 768 2148 1269 (Orleans in January 1993 in conjunction with the IEEE meeting) 1269 SB 768 2207 1159 (in order to prepare a Disposition of Comments on the CD) 1159 SB 768 2266 1115 (ballot of Project JTC 1 22.21.01.02, and to forward the) 1115 SB 768 2325 1243 (Disposition of Comments to the WG15 Convenor, the US, and) 1243 SB 768 2384 470 (SC22. \(Resolution 224\)) 470 SB 318 2502 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2502 50 (80) 50 SB 629 2502 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2502 1260 (US: Provide to the WG15 Convenor a document incorporating) 1260 SB 768 2561 1161 (the changes arising from the Disposition of Comments for) 1161 SB 768 2620 925 (registration as a second CD. \(Resolution 224\)) 925 SB 318 2797 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2797 50 (81) 50 SB 629 2797 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2797 1261 (Convenor: Forward the document provided by the US Member) 1261 SB 768 2856 1232 (Body incorporating the Disposition of Comments to the SC22) 1232 SB 768 2915 1230 (Secretariat for registration as a second CD. \(Resolution 224\)) 1230 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 1158 3233 50 (21) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 22 22 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 256 241 (4.2 9945-2) 241 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 374 1673 (Concern was expressed as to the progress being made on the publication of the DIS) 1673 SB 318 432 337 (ballot of 9945-2.) 337 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 546 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 546 50 (82) 50 SB 629 546 17 (:) 17 SB 768 546 1279 (Convenor: Determine the status of publication of the DIS ballot) 1279 SB 768 605 1183 (of 9945-2 as soon as possible and advise WG15 by E-mail.) 1183 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 725 1589 (WG15/N298 is a liaison statement from SC15 regarding media formats. WG15) 1589 SB 318 783 1722 (believes that due to the preliminary nature of this document no action required at this) 1722 SB 318 841 1691 (time. However, the PAX interface may be relevant and it will be forwarded to SC15) 1691 SB 318 899 322 (for information.) 322 SB 318 1015 1623 (An ad-hoc meeting on P1003.2b was held in Utrecht last week. A full report was) 1623 SB 318 1073 523 (given to the RIN meeting.) 523 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 1212 241 (4.3 9945-3) 241 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 1330 1618 (There was discussion of a liaison statement that was drafted by SC21/WG4 at its) 1618 SB 318 1388 1706 (meeting in Ottawa in May. The document has apparently not officially been received) 1706 SB 318 1446 1498 (by WG15 and thus the discussion was for the purpose of information only.) 1498 SB 318 1562 1650 (The topic was software management. There is overlap only in the area of software) 1650 SB 318 1620 1607 (installation and it is not expected that this will be significant. WG4 concerns are) 1607 SB 318 1678 1652 (complimentary with those of WG15. Liaison will be maintained in order to ensure) 1652 SB 318 1736 639 (that this situation is maintained.) 639 SB 318 1852 1670 (Martin Kirk gave a briefing on the status of P1003.7. 10 - 15 documents of approx.) 1670 SB 318 1910 1730 (200 pages each are expected over time, rather than a single very large documents. The) 1730 SB 318 1968 1625 (documents will contain command line interfaces and managed object definitions.) 1625 SB 318 2026 1495 (APIs will be provided where applicable. In addition, other definitions, e.g.) 1495 SB 318 2084 999 (distribution formats, will be provided as required.) 999 SB 318 2200 1727 (Documents covering Print Management and Software Management are expected to be) 1727 SB 318 2258 1056 (forwarded to WG15 in 2Q93 and 4Q93 respectively.) 1056 SB 318 2374 1651 (Japan provided some comments on the Print Management document. They will be) 1651 SB 318 2432 524 (forwarded to the P1003.7.) 524 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 2546 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2546 50 (83) 50 SB 629 2546 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2546 1161 (US: Forward the Japanese comments on P1003.7.1 D4 to) 1161 SB 768 2605 182 (P1003.7.) 182 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 2724 1661 (Copies of P1003.7.1 D6 and P1003.7.2 D6 were provided to each delegation on an) 1661 SB 318 2782 1050 (informal basis, not as an official WG15 distribution.) 1050 SB 318 2898 1724 (The Project Editor proposed that there existed an opportunity to modify the document) 1724 SB 318 2956 1701 (structure plan and assign a different number to 9945-3. This would allow the various) 1701 SB 318 3014 1528 (parts of P1003.7 to be separate parts of the final ISO document, thus greatly) 1528 SB 318 3072 1256 (simplifying the management of the evolution of the document.) 1256 SB 1158 3233 50 (22) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 23 23 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 289 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 289 50 (84) 50 SB 629 289 17 (:) 17 SB 768 289 1066 (Member Bodies: Consider the proposal to modify the) 1066 SB 768 348 1278 (Document Structure Plan by assigning a new number to 9945-3) 1278 SB 768 407 1156 (and provide feedback to the Project Editor by January 31) 1156 SB 768 466 113 (1993.) 113 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 609 553 (4.4 Language Bindings) 553 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 727 1702 (The US submitted WG15/N310 proposing the fast-track of P1003.5. Canada felt that) 1702 SB 318 785 1545 (fast-track is not within competence of WG15. The US agreed that it could be) 1545 SB 318 843 1722 (submitted to JTC 1, but would like WG15 discussion/endorsement first. New Zealand) 1722 SB 318 901 1689 (asked why a standard is being proposed that will be replaced with 18 months, which) 1689 SB 318 959 1585 (is how long fast-track will take, and suggested that perhaps a Type 2 Technical) 1585 SB 318 1017 1705 (Report might be better. The US said that their most recent fast-track experience is 12) 1705 SB 318 1075 1635 (months. Also, .5 now meets the criteria set down by WG15 in Rosario. Fast-track) 1635 SB 318 1133 1725 (would reduce the load on WG15 and provide something useful to the industry. France) 1725 SB 318 1191 1630 (supported this proposal as it would also help avoid duplication of standards. New) 1630 SB 318 1249 1712 (Zealand said that a Type 2 Technical Report is a short-term standard and can be done) 1712 SB 318 1307 1660 (faster. It provides a flag that says there will be a standard in this space soon. It was) 1660 SB 318 1365 1694 (suggested that the revision will not be done soon, and that it will take longer than 18) 1694 SB 318 1423 1685 (months! The Netherlands asked how big the differences will be? Netherlands would) 1685 SB 318 1481 711 (support a Type 2 Technical Report.) 711 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 1620 1028 (4.5 Technical Report - Guide to POSIX OSE) 1028 SB 318 1786 410 (4.6 Test Methods) 410 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 1904 1666 (WG15/N317 will be addressed by the development of an NP for test methods to be) 1666 SB 318 1962 680 (drafted by the UK Member Body.) 680 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 2076 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 2076 50 (85) 50 SB 629 2076 17 (:) 17 SB 768 2076 1270 (UK: Draft an NP proposal addressing Test Methods as soon as) 1270 SB 768 2135 1124 (possible for formal presentation at the May 1993 WG15) 1124 SB 768 2194 533 (meeting. \(Resolution 204\).) 533 SB 32 0 0 50 50 1 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2361 425 (5.0 New Business) 425 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2502 457 (5.1 Cobol Bindings) 457 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 2620 1563 (WG15/N308 contains the WG4 comments on a COBOL binding to POSIX. It) 1563 SB 318 2678 1674 (originated in the UK. The question was raised that since it seems that COBOL does) 1674 SB 318 2736 1729 (not fit with LIS, is the LIS broad enough? Canada pointed out that the LIS as it stands) 1729 SB 318 2794 1540 (today reflects the C standard, and asked if the next revision should change to) 1540 SB 318 2852 1673 (accommodate COBOL? The UK felt that it should. New Zealand said that the issue) 1673 SB 318 2910 1546 (relates to use within LIS document of variable-size objects, which is hard for) 1546 SB 318 2968 1715 (COBOL. It was pointed out that FORTRAN had coped with this, and that therefore it) 1715 SB 318 3026 1716 (may provide guidance for COBOL. The Chair asked what should WG15 do? The UK) 1716 SB 1158 3233 50 (23) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 24 24 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 318 233 1717 (suggested that the issues could be forwarded to the IEEE for their comments. The US) 1717 SB 318 291 1712 (pointed out that there is not much COBOL knowledge among the POSIX developers,) 1712 SB 318 349 1656 (and that this may affect usefulness of output. The Project Editor suggested that the) 1656 SB 318 407 1605 (problem may not be that POSIX is C related, but that it is system programming) 1605 SB 318 465 1689 (related. The actual modifications needed to support COBOL in its business software) 1689 SB 318 523 1641 (domain may be very small. The Netherlands suggested that WG15 should simply) 1641 SB 318 581 1719 (send an invitation to WG4 to specify their requirements. Japan observed that COBOL) 1719 SB 318 639 1676 (programs need to share files with C programs. The UK pointed out that WG4 is not) 1676 SB 318 697 1688 (requesting a binding, simply raising a question. It was agreed to simply forward any) 1688 SB 318 755 726 (LIS comments to US member body.) 726 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 869 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 869 50 (86) 50 SB 629 869 17 (:) 17 SB 768 869 1130 (US: Examine N308 and take into account any comments) 1130 SB 768 928 385 (relevant to the LIS.) 385 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 1071 794 (5.2 Fast-Track Status of OSI APIs) 794 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 1189 1718 (Japan raised the issue of the possible fast-track of the OSI APIs being developed with) 1718 SB 318 1247 1629 (in TCOS. They were surprised to learn of this from their parent body, rather than) 1629 SB 318 1305 1707 (through WG15. The US explained that this activity had not yet been initiated, and no) 1707 SB 318 1363 1682 (decision had yet been taken. The activity might commence early next year, but only) 1682 SB 318 1421 1546 (when the APIs were ready for final approval within the IEEE. The Convenor) 1546 SB 318 1479 1692 (explained that the TCOS X.500 work previously carried out as part of P1003.17 had) 1692 SB 318 1537 1671 (been renumbered as P1224.2 and was not related to POSIX. All the OSI APIs were) 1671 SB 318 1595 1624 (identified as being outside the scope of POSIX. He suggested that there might be) 1624 SB 318 1653 1649 (value for the US to research outstanding issues from the original P1003.17 project) 1649 SB 318 1711 1685 (and determine if there were any that were specific to POSIX and thus have not been) 1685 SB 318 1769 423 (transferred to P1224.) 423 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Times-Italic /font35 ANSIFont font 318 1883 261 (Action 9210-) 261 SB 579 1883 50 (87) 50 SB 629 1883 17 (:) 17 SB 768 1883 1218 (US: Research outstanding issues from the original P1003.17) 1218 SB 768 1942 1208 (project and determine if there were any that were specific to) 1208 SB 768 2001 1098 (POSIX and thus have not been transferred to P1224.2.) 1098 SB 32 0 0 50 50 1 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2168 481 (6.0 Review/approval) 481 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2309 84 (6.1 ) 84 SB 468 2309 289 (Resolutions) 289 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 2427 942 (The Resolutions are provided as Attachment 6.) 942 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2566 70 (6.2) 70 SB 468 2566 302 (Action Items) 302 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 2684 1712 (The Action Items are provided as Attachment 7. The list includes renumbered Action) 1712 SB 318 2742 803 (Items left open from previous meetings.) 803 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 2881 70 (6.3) 70 SB 468 2881 261 (Issues List) 261 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 2999 1332 (An issue relating to Ada and real-time was added to the issues list.) 1332 SB 1158 3233 50 (24) 50 SB 1 #C statusdict begin /manualfeed false store end EJ RS %%PageTrailer %%PageResources: font Helvetica-Bold %%+ font Times-Italic %%+ font Times-Roman %%Page: 25 25 %%PageResources: (atend) SS 0 0 19 23 787 1169 300 SM 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 0 0 0 fC 622 83 1121 (ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22/WG15 - Reading - October 1992) 1121 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 256 546 (6.4 Liaison Statements) 546 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 316 1196 (N327, N328, N329 and N332 were adopted for forwarding.) 1196 SB 32 0 0 50 50 1 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 422 478 (7.0 Closing Process) 478 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 47 /Helvetica-Bold /font13 ANSIFont font 318 563 1414 (7.1 Future Meeting considerations-- Request for invitations) 1414 SB 32 0 0 50 50 0 0 0 45 /Times-Roman /font36 ANSIFont font 318 681 1238 (The following future meetings have currently been identified.) 1238 SB gs 281 58 295 795 CB 318 797 221 (May 10-14) 221 SB gr gs 149 58 577 795 CB 599 797 100 (1993) 100 SB gr gs 961 58 1146 795 CB 1168 797 186 (Germany) 186 SB gr gs 281 58 295 853 CB 318 855 202 (Oct 25-29) 202 SB gr gs 149 58 577 853 CB 599 855 100 (1993) 100 SB gr gs 418 58 727 853 CB 749 855 344 (Week after IEEE) 344 SB gr gs 961 58 1146 853 CB 1168 855 359 (USA \(East Coast\)) 359 SB gr gs 281 58 295 911 CB 318 913 78 (Apr) 78 SB gr gs 149 58 577 911 CB 599 913 100 (1994) 100 SB gr gs 961 58 1146 911 CB 1168 913 261 (Japan\(target\)) 261 SB gr gs 149 58 577 969 CB 599 971 100 (1994) 100 SB gr gs 418 58 727 969 CB 749 971 195 (c/w IEEE) 195 SB gr gs 961 58 1146 969 CB ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kirk X/Open Company Limited Manager, Distributed Systems Management Apex Plaza, Forbury Road EMail: m.kirk@xopen.co.uk Reading, RG1 1AX, England Tel: +44 734 508311 ext 2258 Fax: +44 734 500110 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------