From martin@xopen.co.uk Tue Nov 12 23:55:23 1991 Received: from eros.uknet.ac.uk by dkuug.dk via EUnet with SMTP (5.64+/8+bit/IDA-1.2.8) id AA08940; Tue, 12 Nov 91 23:55:23 +0100 Received: from xopen.co.uk by eros.uknet.ac.uk with UUCP id <1588-0@eros.uknet.ac.uk>; Tue, 12 Nov 1991 22:54:42 +0000 Received: by xopen (15.11/15.6) id AA12007; Tue, 12 Nov 91 22:33:06 gmt Message-Id: <9111122233.AA12007@xopen> To: sc22wg15@dkuug.dk Reply-To: m.kirk@xopen.co.uk Subject: Stockholm Meeting - Resolutions Date: Tue, 12 Nov 91 22:32:59 GMT From: Martin Kirk X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 This message contains the text of the resolutions passed by WG15 at last weeks meeting in Stockholm. 160. OSI Directory Services: Security Conflict Concerns Whereas it is the desire of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 that the POSIX security extensions become a part of the ISO/IEC work, and Whereas it has been noted that the ACLs as defined in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N234 (IEEE 1003.6 Draft 12) conflict with those defined in ISO/IEC 7498-4 and 7594-8, (refer to document ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N220), and Whereas ECMA PCTE also defines the access control function, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests the US Member Body to investigate the concerns expressed in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N220 and propose a solution to these issues, also taking into account the ECMA PCTE work, and to provide this to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 for its next meeting. 161. ECMA PCTE Security Functions Whereas, JTC1 Project 22.21.01.01.01 defines audit and access control functions as defined for POSIX, and Whereas, ECMA PCTE (ECMA 149 and 158) also defines audit and access control functions, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests the US Member Body to review the ECMA PCTE (ECMA 149 - Abstract Specification & 158 - C Language Binding) with respect to its security functions, and to report back the findings at the next ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 meeting. 162. ISO/IEC JTC1 N1532 (GOSI Proposal) Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1 has instructed ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 to respond to ballot comments on ISO/IEC JTC1 N1532, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests that its Convenor inform ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 that ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 is interested in and prepared to assist in the development of responses to ballot comments. 163. Invitation to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG13 Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG13 is undertaking the development of a POSIX binding for the MODULA-2 programming language, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 invites experts from ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG13 to meet with ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 at the upcoming ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 meeting scheduled for May 1992 in New Zealand. Further, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 invites ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG13 to appoint a liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15. 164. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 Liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG13 ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests its Member Bodies to nominate candidates for the position of Liaison to the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG13 (Modula-2). 165. Language Independent Bindings: US Member Body ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 thanks the US Member Body for demonstrating significant progress in the production of the Language Independent Revision and C-Language Binding for ISO/IEC 9945-1. 166. AFNOR Comments on P1003.9 ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 thanks the French National Body (AFNOR) for ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N205 and asks the US Member Body to forward it to the US Development group for their further action. 167. Interpretations Synchronization ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 instructs its Convenor to forward ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N227 to the convenor of the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 Ad Hoc on Interpretations with the request that the convenor of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 provide feedback for the next ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 meeting. 168. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N222 & N223 to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 work on the Language Independent Specifications is approaching the balloting phase, and Whereas it is essential to incorporate any pertinent requirements as soon as possible, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 instructs its Liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 to forward ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N222 & N223 to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 for its review and comment. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 further instructs its Liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 to forward any comments provided by ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 to the US Development Group for LIS as soon as the comments become available. 169. Appointment of Paul Rabin as ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 Liaison ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 appoints Mr. Paul Rabin as ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11. 170. SGFS Liaison ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests its Member Bodies to nominate candidates for the position of Liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SGFS. 171. PCTE Liaison ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests its Member Bodies to nominate candidates for the position of Liaison to ECMA TC33. 172. Coordination between WG9 and WG15 Ada Real-time projects Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 has requested coordination between ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG9 and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 to ensure the coordination of the POSIX Ada real-time project and the ExTRA Ada real-time project, and Whereas ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC22/WG15 wishes to promote such coordination, Therefore ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests member bodies to nominate candidates for ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG9, and to establish similar liaisons within their own national standards organizations. 173. Coordination of Language Independent Specification and Language Bindings Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 recognizes that there are technical requirements upon the Language Independent Specification imposed by the need to support current and future language bindings, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 to instruct its working groups developing POSIX language bindings to actively participate in the development of POSIX language independent standards in order to ensure that the requirements for their language bindings are met. 174. LIS Support for Programming Languages Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 recognizes that the current POSIX Language Independent Specification supports bindings to procedural, statically-typed programming languages, including all current language binding projects, and Whereas in the future language binding projects can be anticipated for dynamically-typed and other classes of programming languages, and Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 recognizes that the POSIX Language Independent Specification may need to be extended to address the requirement of such programming languages, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests the US Member Body to take into consideration the anticipated future requirements of such programming languages. 175. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 and IEEE POSIX Meetings Whereas the workload associated with the development of international standards has significantly increased with a corresponding increase in the need for cooperation and clear communications between the members of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 and the community of POSIX technical experts, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 plans to schedule at least one ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 meeting a year in conjunction with a scheduled IEEE POSIX meeting. 176. Possible Internationalization New Projects: Request to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20 Whereas a draft Guideline for Producing POSIX National Profiles (ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N212) and sample national profiles for Denmark (ISO/IEC 9945-1:1990) and Japan (ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N213) have been produced, and Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 has determined that the publication of the Guidelines for POSIX National Locales and the Japanese and Danish National Locales would be desirable for the purpose of providing sample material for other national bodies in the development of their national locales, and Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 has determined, in concert with the UniForum and X/Open internationalization working groups, that in order for locales to interoperate properly, particularly in a networked or distributed computing environment, a locale registry procedure would be desirable, Therefore ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20 to consider points 1-3 below, and in each case to indicate, giving rationale: a. agreement or disagreement regarding the desirability of each of the NP proposals; b. whether ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20 wishes to sponsor the NP itself or, alternatively, whether ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20 recommends sponsorship of the NP proposal by ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15. 1) An NP to support the publication of a Technical Report on generic guidelines for POSIX National Profiles, 2) An NP to support the publication of a Technical Report of guidelines for development and collection of National Locales, 3) An investigation of the development of an international locale registry that would satisfy the requirements of national bodies and users, and any NP that may result from such an investigation. 177. Byte Definition request to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC1 Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 has determined that inconsistencies exist in the definition of the word "byte" between various ISO standards, and that such inconsistencies may adversely affect the functionality and portability of applications within the POSIX environment, and Whereas existing definitions do not accommodate the concept of multi-byte characters introduced in ISO/IEC 9899 and referenced in ISO/IEC 9945-1:1990 and CD 9945- 2.2, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests its Convenor to forward the following to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC1: The following is a suggestion for the definition of "byte", as a refinement of the definition appearing in ISO/IEC DIS 2382-1 (ISO/IEC JTC1/SC1 N1176) so that it does not conflict with the one appearing in CD 9945-2.2. byte: A string that consists of a number of bits, treated as a unit, and representing a character or a portion of a character. The suggested definition contains the current definition, suffixed with "or a portion of a character". The two notes in the original definition remain unchanged. 178. Rapporteur Group on Coordination of Profile Activities Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 has requested its Convenor to schedule a ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 Rapporteur Group on Coordination of Profile Activities (RGCPA) meeting and, Whereas it is critical to the needs of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 that this Rapporteur group become productive before the next meeting of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 instructs its Convenor to give the following guidance regarding Terms of Reference to the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 RGCPA for its first meeting:  Propose liaison to groups developing profiles which reference the work of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15.  Ensure coordination and harmonization of profiles referencing the work of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15. and requests the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 RGCPA to recommend their Program of Work and Terms of Reference at the next meeting of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15. 179. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20 Liaison Whereas it is desirable that programming languages allow the use in identifier names of a richer alphabet than that defined by the Invariant Subset of ISO 646, and Whereas it is desirable that programming languages agree on the classes into which characters may be divided, and Whereas ISO/IEC CD 9945-2.2 defines several utilities with input statements syntaxes that approach the complexity of formal programming languages, and Whereas a general solution to these problems is preferred to solutions specific to ISO/IEC 9945-2 utilities, Therefore, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests that ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20 review, comment and take appropriate action on ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N229R. 180. Reply to ISO/IEC JTC1 N1642 Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 has been requested to provide a report on internationalization activities being done within ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 working groups, and Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15, its development bodies and organizations which provide input to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 sponsored standards activities, have had on-going internationalization efforts for a number of years, including the following efforts: 1. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 Rapporteur Group on Internationalization has been active for approximately two years, 2. ISO/IEC 9945-1:1990 includes internationalization features (locale, character set support, including multi-byte character sets, etc) contributed in part by the UniForum Technical Committee Working Group on Internationalization, which has been active for approximately eight years and has been identified by the U.S. development body, IEEE-CS TCOS, as a technical resource for its working groups for internationalization, 3. ISO/IEC CD 9945-2.2 includes additional internationalization features, including extended character set support, support for different cultural user aspects (e.g. collating sequences, time and date formats) which are used by all utilities specified within ISO/IEC CD 9945-2.2, 4. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 RIN, Danish Standards S142u22, IPSJ/ITSCJ POSIX WG (Japan), and the U.S. development body (working groups within IEEE-CS TCOS) maintain common membership which contibutes to coordination and harmonization efforts, 5. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 RIN has been active in promoting work in the area of national profiles and national locale definitions, including contributions from the Danish and Japanese member bodies, and, Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 believes that it has the technical expertise to continue sponsoring internationalization work relating to POSIX standards, Therefore ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 submits the foregoing information for consideration by ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 in preparation of its report to ISO/IEC JTC1 (pursuant to ISO/IEC JTC1 N1642, section 18(j) ), and requests that internationalization work relating specifically to POSIX continue to be assigned to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15, with coordination between ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG20. 181. Responses to ISO/IEC DIS 10646 Whereas ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 is concerned that the proposed ISO/IEC DIS 10646 as stated in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 N745 will meet with substantial resistance in implementation for reasons outlined in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 N215, Therefore ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 Member Bodies are requested to take these reasons into account in establishing a ballot response to ISO/IEC DIS 10646. 182. CD Ballot for POSIX Test Methods Whereas it is expected that ISO/IEC JTC1 will approve in the near future the NP relating to POSIX Test Methods, Therefore ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 requests ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 Secretariat to initiate a concurrent CD Registration Letter Ballot and CD Ballot, based on IEEE Std. 1003.3 - 1991, when the NP is accepted by ISO/IEC JTC1 and assigned to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22. 183. Appreciations ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 thanks the Swedish Institute of Standards, SIS-ITS, and especially Mr. Bo Viklund, Ms. Ann Flod, Ms. Ingvor Flygare, Ms. Filippa Setterwall and Mr. Raimund von der Emden for hosting this meeting. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 thanks Mr. John Hill for chairing the meeting. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 thanks Mr. Martin Kirk for acting as secretary for the meeting. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG15 thanks Mr. Ralph Barker, Mr. Ron Elliott, Mr. Yasushi Nakahara and Mr. Arnie Powell, for participating on the Drafting Committee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kirk X/Open Company Limited Manager, Distributed Systems Management Apex Plaza, Forbury Road EMail: m.kirk@xopen.co.uk Reading, RG1 1AX, England Tel: +44 734 508311 ext 2258 Fax: +44 734 500110 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------